Porsche Classic Engine Oil: 10W60? Anyone used this?

[Haasman]

Just saw on Stoddard's site Porsche Classic Engine Oil: 10W60. Anyone tried this? Know anything about it?

[Haasman]

Answering my own questions- Searched a bit and found this at Porsche.com

"Porsche Classic is launching its own engine oil for air-cooled flat-four and flat-six engines: the Porsche Classic Motoroil. And if it says Porsche on the label, then you can be sure that there is Porsche inside. In collaboration with the Porsche Development Centre in Weissach, the new engine oil has been developed by the Porsche Classic experts with the specific aim of meeting the demands of the 356 and 911 models, including the 993 model range. Its operating behaviour and lubricating properties were put to the test in extensive laboratory-based tests and practical trials. The Porsche Classic Motoroil comes in two different versions: 20W-50 for all 356, 914 and 911 models up to the 2.7-litre G-Model and 10W-60 for flat-six engines from a displacement of 3.0 litres up to the 911 (type 993).The engine is the heart of each and every Porsche, and air-cooled flat engines place particular demands on a lubricant. The thermal load is higher than in water-cooled units, for example, which means that the engine oil has to work harder to cool the engine down. The larger oil volume firstly entails a longer oil heating time, and secondly calls for optimum cold running behaviour. The traditionally high power output per litre of the engines also results in high compression and high pressures. Together with the different temperature zones which are characteristic of air-cooled engines, this means that the oil needs a high "hidden" performance reserve.
A compact and lightweight engine design means that the connecting rods will be short in relation to the piston stroke, which in turn means high lateral piston forces and correspondingly high demands on the lubricating film stability of the oil. In short, the older flat engines in particular can't just use any old oil. The development of an engine oil for classic air-cooled flat engines has therefore been something akin to a balancing act between tradition and innovation: as advanced as possible and as traditional as necessary.
Although modern oils are better from a technical point of view, this is not the case when it comes to classic air-cooled flat engines. For example, the low viscosity of a 0W-30 oil means optimum cold-start behaviour, low engine resistance and other benefits in modern engines. In a 356, however, an oil of this kind can result in leaks and increased oil consumption due to the engine's higher production tolerances and lower oil pressure during operation.
Modern oils also use highly efficient detergent/dispersant agents to thoroughly clean the engine and reliably remove dirt, which can be too much of a good thing for a classic Porsche engine. It is true that additional deposits should be prevented and oil-soluble contaminants such as soot, water and dust kept suspended until they are drained off through the oil filter or removed during the next oil change, but at the same time it is important that the deposits which have built up over decades are not suddenly dissolved and that seals are not corroded.
Since not every classic Porsche is in everyday use, the engine oil also had to meet other demands: classic vehicles are often left stationary for long periods of time and only moved intermittently and for short journeys, which means that condensation can form in the oil if the engine does not heat up fully. Aggressive combustion residues can cause acidification of the oil fill, resulting in the corrosion of engine components. The alloys, metals and sealing materials which were used at the time are at particular risk. Porsche therefore paid particular attention to this aspect when developing its Porsche Classic Motoroil. The special formulation incorporates a high alkaline reserve, which neutralises any acids that may form. Additional corrosion inhibitors also protect vulnerable components, even during longer stationary periods.


20W-50 for the 356, 914 and early 911 modelsFor all 356, 914 and 911 models up to the 2.7-litre G-Model, Porsche recommends the multi-grade version with a viscosity of 20W-50. Back in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s, engines were built with...

10W-60 for the 911 from a displacement of 3.0 litresStarting from the 3.0-litre engine with dry-sump lubrication, the flat-six engines of the 911 are more suited to fully synthetic oils. They allow air-cooled engines to reap all the benefits of technological advances in oils..."

[72targa]

Interesting. I'm not sure that displacement matters as much as operating engine temperature (i.e. this performance offering could be equally applicable to lower displacement engines).

I noted this sentence...

"Anyone venturing onto a race track in a 911 would also be well advised to use the 10W-60 oil,..."

You need the SAE 60 grade at operating temperature if and when the engine continually runs very hot. If the engine oil is kept cool with an oil cooler, this added viscosity would be overkill.

[lkadams]

Just saw on Stoddard's site Porsche Classic Engine Oil: 10W60. Anyone tried this? Know anything about it?

All I know is that at $24 a liter, it had better have magical healing powers and be able to be used for sex lube too. Sheesh. I may pick up a can to put on display on the garage shelf, but to do an oil change in the 911, I'd have to get a second mortgage! :P

[CraigF]

What I find interesting is the PD here in Nashville, TN is only charging $12 per liter. There is also a 5 liter container available for less.

[friggens]

All I know is that at $24 a liter, it had better have magical healing powers and be able to be used for sex lube too. Sheesh. I may pick up a can to put on display on the garage shelf, but to do an oil change in the 911, I'd have to get a second mortgage! :P

I would never pay that much for sex lube

[tomlin]

Purolator oil filters are now available from Porsche Classic (sorry if this has been posted already):

http://www.porsche.com/international...m_medium=email

[72targa]

Fun video on this new oil...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98VZnXtRzvY

Not much technical substance, though...