Interesting Euro 1971 911S

So I did some downsizing and would like to eventually do a 70-71 style ST build, was thinking of using a 78-83SC but a LWB shell would be of interest as well. I just don't want to mess up a numbers matching or unique factory spec car. I have been keeping an eye out for a candidate and when this 71S coupe came up for sale close by I had to have a look. Sounded ideal as it wasn't a matching numbers car and needed exterior body panels anyhow. When I looked at the car it was obviously a euro car and the colour tag showed it wasn't delivered in a standard colour from new. Seemed like a cool car from new but I still felt it could be a good starting point.

I got the car home and emailed davep on here for a vin report. That's when things got more interesting, turns out it was a factory direct sale with a possible special engine, along with a decent string of options. Curious on the colour I took the door card off and with some thinner was able to get a good showing of the original paint(the lighter orange areas in the photos are through the clear coat) A very nice metallic orange colour, would have looked great when new with the pepita seats. Have yet to learn what option M480 is on it and hoping to track down some previous owners but I am feeling like it might make more sense to restore this to its very cool factory spec. I had a search through some factory photos and didn't come across it, should stick out a bit in the custom colour with rear wiper and no front bumperettes. Has anyone come across info on this car before or perhaps some factory photos? Vin is 9111300404. It's unfortunate that it was updated and painted red but well worth saving, as an S or ST build. Currently has a 2.7 in it, and was converted to a sportomatic... What are your thoughts?

Hello I saw this car on Pelican and was glad to see someone picked it up that might take it back to its former glory ..
It’s very interesting that you found the option list and fact that it may have had a paint to sample color .
If it were mine I certainly would either return it to as close to stock or give it some performance upgrades .
It seems ‘70-‘73:cars often suffered the update syndrome I even had a ‘71 which I did the same unfortunately ..
Looks like a fun project good luck , B

Thanks for sharing this interesting car.

Here are two orange cars with factory plates and no front over riders.

The car with Stuttgart plate S-Y 1811 appears in a 1972 model year Italian brochure and other factory photos. It has features of the 1971 models and 2.4 L engine designation of the 1972 models. The blue sticker on the license plate indicates that the car was likely first registered in 1970 and required re-inspection in 1972. This car also has the rear wiper. The color in photos ranges from dark orange to light orange, so its true color is a bit of a mystery.

There is also a car with Leonburg plate LEO-ZA 57. The factory used Leonburg LEO-ZA plates around 1971-1972 on Carrera RS and RSR cars.

You might find a good sample of the original color under the paint tag.

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. . . obviously a euro car and the colour tag showed it wasn't delivered in a standard colour . . .

. . . turns out it was a factory direct sale with a possible special engine, along with a decent string of options. Curious on the colour . . . . A very nice metallic orange colour . . .

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Wow! --- very cool car

'Dealer 100' cars can be interesting --- not just because of who owned them . . . but why:
https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...er-Nr-100-Cars

And any 'special paint' car is, well, special:
https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...aint-to-Sample

I hope you consider restoring the car back to stock. A very different outcome from what you thought, perhaps, but --- I would definitely try to research as much as you can, regardless. Special color + special engine + 'Dealer 100' = something unique and IMO worth bringing back

Anyway --- congratulations! . . . and thank you for sharing


And keep us updated on your progress, will you?


Yours is the kind of car that makes Our Little Corner so interesting



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Thanks for the replies and thanks for the photos Eric! Looks to me like S-Y 1811 is a very possible candidate for this car when new. The second photo of it looks very much like the colour I see behind the door panel, and I found another photo of the first photo and it looks closer in colour as how I'd imagine it would look in sunlight. Can't be too many in this colour with a rear wiper, and a 2.4 in it would explain the special engine. Funny they used a 70-71 911S for the 72 advertisement photos, still has the round mirror and appears to be no oil flap, black engine grill and letters though. One thing I see that doesn't line up is the photos of S-Y 1811 show no headrests, whereas the build sheet says there are L+R headrests.. The tow hook would be another clue but hard to see in those photos.

Is there any way of tracing a vin number down through the registration number? That would answer the question if it was S-Y 1811 or not. I'm sure that info would be readily available to some people, I am not one of those people though.

Love how cars like this still surface, odd it was in Canada of all places but then again a narrow body ST was found not that long ago here. You really never know what can happen to a car in 50+years! I agree it should be brought back to it's original state and probably not ideal for what I had in mind, no worries there though, it's a very cool car. Hoping to find out more about it in the next while!

Definitely carefully restore to original and unique configuration.

I guess that G style front required moving the rivet on I.D. tag to near the smugglers box. It should have been on the front latch panel.

Very interesting car that deserves to be restored as new.

Are you sure that this is a metallic paint? I ask because the 9898 is usually associated with uni colors, not metallic, if i'm not mistaken.
Now, you need to find the mixture of the paint, from Herberts, if this is possible.

I am not sure it is metallic either. The paint code is a single row code. When one has metallic paint with clearcoat then it is often a two row code at least as a custom paint. Standard paint codes did not have this feature of course.

edmayo, this one got the "lazy" G model conversion, the old latch panel is still there! Can still see both rivet holes for the I.D. tag and where the old latch went. They didn't have to move it but must've to keep it visible. Glad they kept the plate at least, and should be easier to convert it back to a longhood(still retains both battery boxes, hood is a longhood just trimmed down...)

928cs, davep, I am pretty positive it is metallic. I figured since many old paint jobs were done poorly they wouldn't have sanded around the colour plate, so I took some masking tape and pulled a few layers of paint off to get down to the original colour. Hard to get an accurate showing of it on the phone camera and on my laptop it looks a bit copper like but it shows the metallic pretty well. And to double check I took some fine sand paper and it sands white showing it is a base clear/two stage. Unfortunately someone made a mess of the plate, probably would have come out really nice. At least it is still legible! Not sure why the colour tag is reflecting a single stage? Also curious why would they need to have a second line for the two stage cars as the topcoat would always just be clear coat?

Also I found another angle of the S-Y 1811 car, clearly shows it's a 70-71 car with no oil door. I am waiting on a reply from Porsche Classic to see if they have info on the registration numbers and corresponding vins. If it isn't S-Y 1811 I hope they can tell me which one it would be, and with any luck they will have some more info.

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. . . Can't be too many in this colour with a rear wiper, and a 2.4 in it would explain the special engine . . .

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Hm. I can think of another one --- a '71 S with a 'special (2.4) engine' . . .
https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...siffert%2C+911
https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...-to-Jo-Siffert
https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...hlight=siffert

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. . . Is there any way of tracing a vin number down through the registration number? That would answer the question if it was S-Y 1811 or not. I'm sure that info would be readily available to some people . . .

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I would think the 'production number' (1010437 on the dash) would be all the Porsche Arkive would need to tell you anything you wanted to know

Retroel,
Any updates to share?

Wow, a special car for sure.

We were able to establish that the paint was Metallic Tangerine; a one-off example? No information on the engine was available.

Nothing much for news on this 71S. One thing I found interesting though, I took the right rear wheel off to fix a leak, and it appears to have had a 72 oil tank in it(now blocked off) No idea if that would've been done at the factory or afterwards, and why it was turned into a regular oil tank after that but I'm sure some careful paint stripping might reveal some truth.

Another member on here has expressed interest in the car and since I was looking for a shell to do a conda green ST build with I have decided it's best to pass it on. This car deserves to be returned to it's metallic tangerine colour and original configuration. I'm sure more info and factory photos will surface in the future as well, it's a very unique car! Search will continue for a coupe to do a build on and hopefully one day this car will be driving in it's original glory.

Very cool find. Another clue to the cars in the period photos is the presence of an electric right mounted antenna on the S-Y 1811 car and no electric antenna on the car with LEO ZA plates.

Your post is very welcome Brian, it’s been a while I think. Yes, cool find.

Hi Rick'

Yes, has been a while since I've logged on. This thread though compelled a comment especially after seeing the period photos. Very cool to connect those photos with the original poster's 911. Anyway, hope all is well with you. Too bad it's been so long since we have been together. You are a heck of a driver! :)

The 72 oil tank wasn’t installed. It seems a little early, in this case, to start the panel update. I’ve seen late 71’s with flag mirrors and flat sixes. It doesn’t surprise me.