Interior color codes

On the Kardex for a car you can find a code that usually is found in the exterior paint code box, but seems to apply to the interior color in the next box.There is also a secondary code for fabric type.
Primary code for color:
A = rot / red
B = schwarz / black
C = braun / brown
D = beige / beige
F = blau / blue
G = grun / green
K = fawn

Secondary code for fabric type:
C = corduroy
P = pepita / hound's tooth

Leder = leather
Kunstl. or K'Leder = leatherette

This coding form applies from 1965 through 1968 model years for both 911 & 912.

first set of examples

second set of examples

third set of examples

Dave

this is a good thread to start. hopefully it will add to the collective knowledge of how to interpret the data on the early cars.

The 2 part alphabetical codes and their placement in relation to the paint code makes sense to me.

They seem almost identical to the ones used for 356's.
they are for the 356 colour chart W15 printed 6.63:
color:
A Red
B Black
K Fawn
D Grey
G Green
F Blue

Materials:
C Corduroy

It appears when Corduroy was not used there was no second letter. This document states that interiors are in leatherette or leatherette and corduroy combined so there may have been another code for leather.

My question is how long were these used for? Was it until the new chassis numbering system came in in 1969 or maybe when they changed the paint codes at one time?

I am much more familiar with the data from the early 1970's where a much more detailed 2 number system was used added onto the exterior paint code to provide a 6 number exterior colour and interior colour and type of material for both the upholstery and the seats. this is best seen in the build details in the RS book but is also on all the order details placed with the factory.

For example my 73 coupe is 111132 translated to light ivory (1111) with tan leatherette interior (3) and seats done in tan leatherette with a corduroy centre stripe (2).

Below is my understanding of the interior codes that applied by this stage (from at least the early 70's.)


Code Interior panels etc Seats Available
Material Colour Material Centre Stripe 911 T E S
11 Leatherette Black Leatherette Leatherette perforated 911 T E S
11 Leatherette Black Leatherette Leatherette basketweave 914

12 Leatherette Black Leatherette Corduroy 911 T E S/914
13 Leatherette Black Leatherette Hound’s tooth 911 T E S

16 Leatherette Black Gen Leather Leather Perforated 911 T E S
17 Leatherette Black Gen Leather Corduroy 911 T E S
18 Leatherette Black Gen Leather Hound’s tooth 911 T E S

21 Leatherette BrownLeatherette Leatherette perforated 911 T E S
21 Leatherette BrownLeatherette Leatherette basketweave 914

22 Leatherette BrownLeatherette Corduroy 911 T E S/914
23 Leatherette BrownLeatherette Hound’s tooth 911 T E S

26 Leatherette BrownGen Leather Leather Perforated 911 T E S
27 Leatherette BrownGen Leather Corduroy 911 T E S
28 Leatherette BrownGen Leather Hound’s tooth 911 T E S

31 Leatherette Beige / TanLeatherette Leatherette perforated 911 T E S
31 Leatherette Beige / TanLeatherette Leatherette basketweave 914

32 Leatherette Beige / TanLeatherette Corduroy 911 T E S/914
33 Leatherette Beige / TanLeatherette Hound’s tooth 911 T E S

36 Leatherette Beige / TanGen Leather Leather Perforated 911 T E S
37 Leatherette Beige / TanGen Leather Corduroy 911 T E S
38 Leatherette Beige / TanGen Leather Hound’s tooth 911 T E S

66 Gen Leather Black Gen Leather Leather Perforated 911 T E S
67 Gen Leather Black Gen Leather Corduroy 911 T E S
68 Gen Leather Black Gen Leather Hound’s tooth 911 T E S

76 Gen Leather Brown Gen Leather Leather Perforated 911 T E S
77 Gen Leather Brown Gen Leather Corduroy 911 T E S
78 Gen Leather Brown Gen Leather Hound’s tooth 911 T E S

86 Gen Leather Beige / TanGen Leather Leather Perforated 911 T E S
87 Gen Leather Beige / TanGen Leather Corduroy 911 T E S
88 Gen Leather Beige / TanGen Leather Hound’s tooth 911 T E S

99 Special order Special order


I will post the 356 paint chart details later today when i get the scanner working again (and try to post the above details in a format that is easier to read (the board did not pick up the formatting that i used)

fourth set of examples

fifth set of examples

I guess "Kunstl." is Kunstleder or "leatherette?"

http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&lan...rch=kunstleder

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I guess "Kunstl." is Kunstleder or "leatherette?"

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yes

here is the 356 document i referred to above where the codes are shown in 3 languages and a formatted copy of the later interior codesAttachment 174853Attachment 174852Attachment 174851

What other color interiors exist that we are missing? Green, blue and white or grey I believe. My database has two instances of white, but it is possible that it was grey instead.

Hugh's list above covers 1969 and later (how late I wonder). My 1969 Kardex examples show the two digit code prefaced by 98; so 9822 would be brown leatherette with corduroy inserts.

I am happy with this one:

http://forum.deklassieke912.nl/pic/6801A.jpg

Thanks Raj. It would seem that by 1968 the color choices were limited to just four.
1967 VIN 305149 seen here appears to have a grey interior:

Raj, do you have a VIN for that green interior?

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Thanks Raj. It would seem that by 1968 the color choices were limited to just four.
1967 VIN 305149 seen here appears to have a grey interior:

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No, this is BEIGE

Thanks for the clarification Barwaut, it is difficult to tell sometimes with lighting of the photo, and rendering of some monitors.

1968 interior samples. Note the multiple versions of pepita and corduroy.

1965/1966/1967 US/RoW
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/3396/dsc05492a.jpg

1968 US
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/4413/dsc05483p.jpg

1969 US/RoW
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/4205/dsc05484p.jpg

1970 US
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/521/dsc05486a.jpg
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/4660/dsc05487m.jpg

1970 RoW
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2038/dsc05488b.jpg

1971 US
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/6267/dsc05482z.jpg

1971 RoW
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5594/dsc05489x.jpg

1972 US
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3811/dsc05490m.jpg

1972 RoW
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/6088/dsc05491r.jpg

1973 US
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/9324/img6004fv1.jpg

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1968 interior samples. Note the multiple versions of pepita and corduroy.

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pepita P1 (68S)
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/3295/3401fr9.jpg
pepita P3 (67S, if I remember correctly)
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1383/dsc04397yq9.jpg

Sorry to ask a separate question. What do the number codes refer to in the same box (underneath the color codes) under the headings : KD-Heft-Nr. and Wagenauslieferung

Regards
Mike

K.D. heft number is the Customer service number (Kunden Dienst). That number can also be found in the warranty booklet that goes w/ the car.

Richard

I need some more help on the 1969 interior codes. After looking at a few more Kardex and other documentation it seems that the prefix can be either 98 or 99 with about a 50/50 split in occurrence. Is there anything in the literature that explains the difference?

9821 is mentioned on a Kardex as 'A LEAT A' and on a COA as red leatherette
9822 is mentioned on a Kardex as 'A LEAT B' and on a COA as black leatherette / basketweave
9823 is mentioned on a Kardex as 'A LEAT C' and on a COA as brown leatherette
9824 is mentioned as beige leatherette

from the brochure in post 20 for 1969 it seems the codes were a continuation of 1968 and earlier, thus last digit:
A = 1 = red
B = 2 = black
C = 3 = brown
D = 4 = beige

the other codes I have nothing on:
9922
9923
9932

also rumors of 9802 & 9812 that may have interior context
I believe that the first digit '9' indicates options, and that the second digit is related to different classes of options. The third digit '2' may refer to the leatherette / basketweave combination. There are also leather, corduroy & pepita to be encoded.

Dave and Hugh good thread! My 73S is an Italian spec, M34, car with cinnamon leatherette. The seat inlays are tan madras. The seats are original and confirmed by the first owner in Italy. Being an ROW car would there be an additional designation for madras as opposed to the other fabrics, cord and dogtooth? There were three colors for madras I think. Blue, red and tan. My car is 310 built 11/72. Aubergine/cinnamon/32 Steve

Can anyone tell me what the addition "Cords. Perle" means after F Leder Blau?
My kardex states; upholstery; F Leder Blau/ Cords. Perle
Cords for Corduroy?
Thanks in advance :)

What VIN is this for? Cords for corduroy is good. Perle for perlon carpet perhaps. A copy of the Kardex would be most useful to me in this research.

Sorry.. it's for 302831. Will post Kardex after I scan it (later this week...) Thanks again!

Eric, thanks for photos. My tan madras has the same colors but in a much different pattern. My inlays are exactly like the photo in B. Johnson's book on pg. 54. The samples you have are significantly different. My car is ROW 11/72 build and normal seats. Yours look like sport seat covers if that makes any difference. SS

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Originally Posted by davep

What VIN is this for? Cords for corduroy is good. Perle for perlon carpet perhaps. A copy of the Kardex would be most useful to me in this research.

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Here's the Cardex;
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5229/cardexd.jpg

Thanks again :)

Thanks. Interesting you were able to get a full Kardex without any info removed.

Yes, I also noticed it. Got it through the Dutch dealer a couple of years ago. They don't supply it anymore, only if the numbers you give them are matching or not. Pity...

I was hoping someone called help me with a few interior questions?

I am in the strip down and research phase of a 1970 911T restoration...I have found allot of information on the net but I have been struggling to properly identify the interior colour..I don't have a Kardex for the car....The car was Australian delivered and it had the Recaro sports seat option with the leatherette basket weave insert and perforated sides.

http://www.hp-f.com.au/wp-content/up...911T-seats.jpg


Qusetion 1
Can someone tell me if these seats are Brown or Beige? As I believe both colours were available? They are faded which probably doesn't help...
Can you still source the correct basket weave and Leatherette to match this? As I want the restoration to be as close to the original as I can get it...

Qusetion 2
The original carpet in this car had been changed to an ugly black shag pile but during the strip down I found some Brown Purlon which I believe was an option on the T ?
Can you still get the Brown Purlon? I have hunted around and can only seem to find charcoal like the trunk material?

Thanks Rob.

Attachment 191900Attachment 191899

Hi,

this is the Cardex for my 911S 119 300 970 with interior code 9842 PEP B P, Recaro Sports seats.

Also a picture how it look today, it looks like it done from the factory.

http://restoringa911s.blogspot.com/

Best regards
Bjorn

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Question 1
Can someone tell me if these seats are Brown or Beige? As I believe both colours were available? They are faded which probably doesn't help...
Can you still source the correct basket weave and Leatherette to match this?

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That looks beige to my eyes. Talk to Tony Garcia at Autobahn Interiors.
http://www.autobahninteriors.com/

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Originally Posted by GTA246GT

Attachment 191900Attachment 191899

Hi,

this is the Cardex for my 911S 119 300 970 with interior code 9842 PEP B P, Recaro Sports seats.

Also a picture how it look today, it looks like it done from the factory.

http://restoringa911s.blogspot.com/

Best regards
Bjorn

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Bjorn,

Great Kardex! The fact that you have a Piech family member's name and address on your car's build sheet is priceless.

Put it in safe place

I got some new info from the factory today regarding the 98xy interior codes; 1<y>7 & 1<x>4 where x is red, black, brown & beige in that order as we already knew. I need help translating the rest from the original German, can anyone help translate please. PM me.

PM sent :)

Today I have added the F, G & K codes to the first post in the thread. Still have to confirm the code for gray.

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Steve, Here's the 3 colors. I have the codes, but I'm away from my office this week.

Eric

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Hello Eric

Could you post the interior codes for them please ?
My CoA says blue interior #41

Manu

I recd a Kartex for an Irish Green 69 E that shows the following for interior - "9822 A.LEAT.B"
I am having trouble understanding how to read this. Thanks for any guidance.

Artificial LEATher & B=black, so black leatherette.

Thanks for the input Dave. So what does the 9822 indicate? I thought perhaps the 22 was brown/brown cord. Thanks for the help.

98xy is the option code series for interiors
y=1 red
y=2 black
y=3 brown
y=4 beige

x=
1 base equipment
optional
2 Seats - leatherette
3 Seats - leatherette/Corduroy
4 Seats - leatherette/Pepita
special equipment
5 Seats - leather FLP
6 Seats - leather/Corduroy
7 Seats - leather/Pepita

according to a factory document I have

Thanks Dave!

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. . . 98xy is the option code series for interiors
y=1 red
y=2 black
y=3 brown
y=4 beige

x=
1 base equipment
optional
2 Seats - leatherette
3 Seats - leatherette/Corduroy
4 Seats - leatherette/Pepita
special equipment
5 Seats - leather FLP
6 Seats - leather/Corduroy
7 Seats - leather/Pepita

according to a factory document I have . . .

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Wow!


. . . and this is why I love this site

Thanks, Dave

Thanks, but it appears that I have to go back and make some corrections to previous posts where I said it was brown.
I really need someone to do some translations, and a good guess as to what FLP stands for; perforated leather?

Anyone have an original sample of K color code (Fawn)?

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Anyone have an original sample of K color code (Fawn)?

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Frank, I'm researching colors and came across this old thread. Check the SWB seats being sold over on the bird (not the nice ones, but the cores). Under the dirt, they are darker beige than the seats I have for sale.

I have a 68L, this is my Kardex, is the interior red?Attachment 430094

Red leather I think.

Regards
Mike

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I have a 68L, this is my Kardex, is the interior red?Attachment 430094

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k.leder rot=leatherette red
cords.= corduroy

And the code CC 337?

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And the code CC 337?

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schlüssel= key

https://dict.leo.org/german-english

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And the code CC 337?

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CC 337 is most probably the Glovebox key code.

Das Zündschloß = Ignition lock (at least on very early 911s, "K" codes were non-locking steering columns and "FL" codes were locking steering columns).

UPSSS thanks,,, and sorry

How does one obtain one of these Kardexs?

email sent

Great info on this thread.

Hey so I m trying to restore concurs correct the interior of my 912 .

It’s Golf Blue with Leather Beige interior If i m not mistaken. But how about the carpets ? I read that s only 1 color for those on the 66 Model. Is that correct ? Can I get that info for the carpet from the Kardex on 1966?

Is the carpet now in the car the original carpet? It is highly likely your original carpet was Perlon, although it would have been possible to specify a "squareweave" carpeting in various colors in 1966. Because you have an unusual (special ordered) beige interior, perhaps a different carpet than the standard grey Perlon was also ordered. So NO, there wasn't only one color for 1966 912 -- you could special order a different material than Perlon and in various colors. My point is: First you have to find out what the car came with originally, because at concours originality counts. Yes, the Kardex should identify if a special order carpet was installed. If it turns out the car came with the standard grey Perlon, and it still has it, I urge you to try to clean it rather than replace it. The original Perlon is very durable and cleans up very well. The replacement so-called Perlon is vastly inferior in durability and appearance. I have never understood why, with the thousands of cars that came with Perlon in the interior and trunk, no one has successfully made a new run with original Perlon composition, color, and texture.

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Hey so I m trying to restore concurs correct the interior of my 912 .

It’s Golf Blue with Leather Beige interior If i m not mistaken. But how about the carpets ? I read that s only 1 color for those on the 66 Model. Is that correct ? Can I get that info for the carpet from the Kardex on 1966?

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As far as I know, and according to the 1966 Porsche Colors Brochure https://files1.porsche.com/filestore...nt-samples.pdf all carpets were black.

911s had velour carpet [black with white or silver threads—often called salt-and-pepper] and 912s bouclé [squareweave] carpet with (I think) rubber floor mats.

Velour carpet isn’t listed as an option for 912s.

A Kardex normally has just the upholstery COLOR, seat inlays (if any) and whether it’s real or synthetic leather.

I am trying to find a good example of brown leatherette 21(this is how it is listed on COA) for a 1970T. I have inquired to some high end upholstery shops but the samples I obtained vary quite a bit. I found this from a 70 brochure but still not sure if this is brown 21.
Thanks in advance...
Attachment 521832

Would the "Elephant Hide" material used on 1968 911L models beclassed as Leatherette (Kundstl or K'Leder) or somthing different?

Most likely.

question:
how is the color of the door panels, door trims, luggage trims, handle bars defined?
I have seen red carpets with blck leather seats, black trims....but also with red trims...

the above pic of the nice fawn interiour is also interesting...black trims, but fawn rear luggage trim, black pockets, fawn panels.....

had there been the : if in leather, than.. conditions?

br
stay safe & healthy

Thanks to DaveP i have my 1969 911 2.0E Kardex :)
After reading, this post, i'm not sure for interior code 9822 K-LED B.

On post#42
98xy is the option code series for interiors
y=2 black
x=2 Seats - leatherette

On post#1
K-LED is for Kunstl. or K'Leder = leatherette ?
en B for Black ?


So the reference 9822 and K-LED B are redundant?

Attachment 611444

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Thanks to DaveP i have my 1969 911 2.0E Kardex :)
After reading, this post, i'm not sure for interior code 9822 K-LED B.

On post#42
98xy is the option code series for interiors
y=2 black
x=2 Seats - leatherette

On post#1
K-LED is for Kunstl. or K'Leder = leatherette ?
en B for Black ?


So the reference 9822 and K-LED B are redundant?

Attachment 611444

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correct...kunstleder schwarz / leatherette black