D'eser or BF Torino Sheel 300 or Recaro ST seats - SEAT EXPERT HELP NEEDED PLEASE!!

Hi All,

Anyone actually tried these out? I'm in Europe so the GTS and N.American options are not working.

They are going into a 2.5 ST. Understand that both the Recaro and Sheel seat were used in period - anyone what to chime in on either ones 'correctness'.

Since the original's are getting so hard to find /super expensive I wanted to go with a 'as correct as possible' recreation option.

D'eser seats seem more artisan but the BF's have Dekra certification? Does it matter? I think the BF's are steel tubular and the D'eser's fibreglass tub...

Any insights super appreciated!!

Cheers,

Ali

Vintage Seats has some nice stuff.

I would ALWAYS recommend originals to you. you have a high-quality car that you can convert into a ST, why do you want to save on a component that makes up a large part of the interior? It is not expedient to assume that any replicas look or act exactly like originals.You are certainly not screwing any extensions from the turbo to your ST, but it should be as the ST was just then. why deviate from this project in the interior? plastic fenders on your car or instruments from the G-model? no go! just my opinion - maybe others think differently. There are also the original gradations in quality and design, so that there is actually something for every budget. But in one thing I agree with you: it is often not easy to find and without knowledge you can fall for it. are you in europe? me too - unfortunately cannot send you a pm because you have not activated, but you can write to me - I will be happy to help you.

greetings

Had BF Torino "Le Mans" seats for years, and found that they were built okay but noticeably less comfortable than stock (914) seats—pushing my upper back forward. They didn't offer great lateral support either. Was lucky to find a set of used Scheels (thanks Russ!) that are wonderfully comfortable...the only seats I've tried in a 914 that are as comfortable or more comfortable than the stock seats so long as you are reasonably thin. There's plenty of lateral support, and the cloth centers are a boon. No more sweating on black vinyl.

Agree with the comments on old fiberglass, and have long admired Vintage Seats. Probably the way I'd go in a 911 or 912. I would be careful with carbon-fiber seats to learn more about their composition—as you really don't want carbon fiber around your body if it breaks or splinters. There are ways to deal with that, and hopefully that's been accounted for in the offerings on the market.

I had both BFT and Deser, there are good repro/quality for us in Europe.
I would also be very careful with vintage seats using FBG as per their age. I would tend yo agree also on the previous comments about "if you build a ST car then, why do you care about $", but repro seats are still expensive and looks great but cheaper than very nice condition vintage seats.
I do have a swb, and even if I try to be as much as possible period correct, I will not throw ' digits dollars on vintage seats, I'd rather buy high standard repro seats.

It really depends on your objectives, mindset and $.

Please share pics on your build :-)
Xavier

Just to be clear Vintage Seats is a company. It specializes in pretty accurate redos of the original R, RS, ST, 356 GT etc, I have had an RS version with Eric's sliders that goes from car to car as needed. A great set up that looks original.

Plus one for Vintage Seats- been in my car for quite a while. No complaints, sat in them from Va. to Calif. and back.

And btw Deser / BF Torino are not true to originals, their seat mechanism is simplified and they can be spotted in a second to be not the real deal, also leather materiels dont match. They are not „correct as possible“. Always a low down to see people mount them in a otherwise good looking car.

I beleive however Vintage Seats are better and look true to originals.

in the end, you can still make a repro part, no matter how good, it will always remain a repro part: a very well made rolex reproduction or a plastic fender that is well painted may blind a fleeting observer, but never yourself. you yourself will always know: this is not the right (original) part. but of course everyone has to make up their own mind - that's why there is of course a legitimate market for replicas ... one builds something like this, the other changes his bonnet lettering from "911T" to "911S" everyone according to his style. we live in a free world. just one more word on the subject: 50 year old GRP seats are no longer safe. I think that is nonsense. In 40 years of Porsche experience and 20 years of intensive seat collecting, I have never seen a broken old seat shell (exception, of course, serious accidents or improper treatment). In contrast to the old Recaro / Scheel quality, I would always give priority to the old original out of the 60s/70s than to these new "replicas". but also here in order not to get too close to anyone: just my unmistakable opinion. greetings

A Scheel Replica is quite easy to do fairly correct looking. Recaro repops are always bad as no one seems to be able to replicate the gelcoat surface. For me (I have both originals) it‘s the Recaro. It just fits my butt better apart from being really solid compared to old flimsy Scheel stuff.
I‘d bite the bullet and go for original Recaro, if that is not an option then replica Scheel would be my choice. Gerrit is no longer active but there are still some of his repops floating around. Perhaps alex still has some (aasink ) here on the forum.