how about a head count of L owners?
there's got to be about a dozen of us now - yeah?
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how about a head count of L owners?
there's got to be about a dozen of us now - yeah?
...but, we have a '68 US (ab-)Normal. ;)
Hi Bob, I am the happy owner of a light ivory 911L, delivered in Switzerland in August 1968.
present.
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jens - we would never exclude a fellow 68 owner ;).
mics - i would like to see that light ivory L - great color!
pics would be awesome from all owners.
thinking of creating a "registry" for all 911L owners by chasis number. maybe some pics with a brief description in pdf format to be sent out to all 911L owners - just for "fun".
i know there are more out there...
Here are a couple ... if this works
mics - NICE!
Great photography of a fantastic car! Good show Mike.
Put me down for 2! Both of my rally cars are Ls.
Best,
Don
I own my beloved 'L' - being 11810056 - apparently the earliest recorded RHD Sportomatic. 6808 Burgundy red with Biscuit interior and no options.
Porsche UK (AFN) demonstrator / hack for five years then one careful owner for 27 years - then to me in 1999.
And just over 28,000 miles from new :-)
I'll post some pictures, if anyone's interested, when it's back from the engine shop later this week.
If any of you have the Chris Harvey book 'The Porsche 911' it's the first colour print in the centre, just after pg 106.
Well Bob...guess we can count Glucklich in for one more...
Cheers,
Delivered new to Melbourne, Australia.
Believed to be one of 8 or 9 delivered. I know where 4 are...
I have owned the car since 1998.
Irish Green, with Beige... Pictures already posted on this site - but more won't hurt will they?
Justin Reed
Sydney, Australia
Love your L/R Bob.
1 mike - light ivory
2 joe - yellow
3-4 don -silver/grn, orange?
5 pmjt - burgendy
6 michael - burgendy
7 justin - irish green
8 bret - black sporto
9 steve - burgandy
10 bob - arctic silver
11 paul - green with silver scripts (not an active s reg member but he recently came into possession of this great looking car here in the bay area).
time to start a gang or at least a religion ;).
the 911S secret police?
sorry - meant 911L secret police...
JR
Great color combo!
Friday afternoon bump.
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Montana??? Where in Mt are you? I was just on a nice drive thru Glacier this week in the Carrera.
I am in Bozeman, south west MT.
Sounds fun. Did you drive the Going to the Sun? See any snow? :)Quote:
I was just on a nice drive thru Glacier this week in the Carrera.
As of yesterday, I'm down with Jens. Bought a '68 USA (ab-) normal myself, #11835131 in Sand Beige, as a R-project car. It's in pretty sorry cosmetic shape at the moment with some left rear qtr-panel damage, trashed interior, non-stock parts everywhere, including a Euro-SC type 930/10 engine and 915 tranny and flat-6" Fuchs. The engine runs strong, the clutch is chattering, 1st and 2nd synchros are weak, but it runs and drives very solidly and I could only find a couple of very small rust patches on the exterior window frames and one rust-thru slit about 2" long on the passenger side floorboard. I'll start stripping out the interior and soundproofing next week to see what else I find, but it looks like this one can be brought back into a nice RGruppe sleeper for not TOO many bucks. We'll see.Quote:
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Here's the rear left corner hit by an uninsured motorist that caused the seller to give up on the car (amoung other things.)
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Here's a rear shot showing the extent of the damage- the license panel was crumpled, both rear lenses broke, the left fender needs to be pulled about 1/4" out to restore the gaps on the non-original '74-77 decklid and get rid of the crease up by the wheel well, but I figure a fiberglass R bumper and lights will grease right in there, and I may as well have some small R flares hammered into the fenders while it's getting straightened. :)
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And most interesting to my eyes was the small sticker on the side of the elec. panel cover in the engine bay. It appears TRE breathed on this car at some point. I emailed Dave to see if he remembers it.
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I need some stock headlights for this thing right away to get it roadworthy. Anyone got a pair? They don't have to be cherry H-1s like Jerry's, this is going to be a rat-rod at best.
TT
I'm liking the Max Dial license bracket...
I was going to ask about that--I found "Max Dial Porsche-Audi" on La Brea in Inglewood, CA, in an EPA listing on the web, but are they still in business?Quote:
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TT
I got a note back from Dave and he did indeed build this car for a fellow named Alan Rusczika quite awhile ago, but still remembers it.Quote:
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Hey, I found and bought a TRE '68 hotrod by blind luck just 15 miles from my house. How cool is that? :cool:
TT
MAX DIAL is long gone.
That's most likely an EPA Superfund reference for property with contaminated soil...Quote:
Originally Posted by ttweed
Hi , there is one sitting in a barn near my place in Quebec, it belongs to the brother of a friend of mine who also owns a 1968 targa soft window. He is restoring it.......!
Francois
1973 911 with `S` spec.
We always love seeing barn-find photos. Hopefully you can post some pics?
What floor pan? All I see is asphalt.
Wow! That makes my little 3" slit in the floor look like small potatoes. Dave at TRE has taken pity on me and is going to cut a 10" square out of an old pan he has laying around and send it to me. After getting that welded in and a little POR-15 treatment on a few other spots where the undercoating has failed, my little T/R project will be set with a very dry and solid tub. After stripping it down and crawling all around and under it now for the last week, I am amazed at the condition it is in after 37 years. This car had to have spent its whole life in CA and been garaged a good deal of the time. Right under the floor insulation where people step into the car, it appears vulnerable to water intrusion and breaching of the coatings. I also found evidence of a previous repair to the left front suspension mount, right where the battery acid can have ill effects on these SWB cars. It is in great shape otherwise. I'm stoked! Who needs galvanizing? :)Quote:
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TT
that is just the sort of repair that I would like to learn how to perform. Tom, I will drive down (actually it is mostly over) for that event. May I assist with this surgery Dr. Tweed? Really, I am not kidding. I want in on this.
As long as you do not mind some old goofy foot Capitola CA surfer parking an ugly green car on your driveway. Not an oil dripper.
Shawn. :o
Sure, Shawn, I'll let you know when it's happening. Still need to get the piece from TRE, then I'm going to get a tinner I know who did the RS flares on my '73 to put it in. My welding skills are not up to the task. I am a wood-butcher by trade. :)Quote:
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If it looked like this I could handle it.
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TT
well, well... nothing quite like dredging-up old threads, right? -I just figured I'd add our 911L to the fray. #11810193 just arrived in the Bay Area. Originally Ossi Blue, now a cheap brothel red, it needs pans and rockers, but is essentially all there. It arrived with a '73T engine installed, but after some serious digging I located the original 130hp 911L lump... it is currently the base of a shiny, glass-topped coffee table in an Oklahoma den. I'm in negotiations with the owner to replace his wonderful 901/06 coffee table with something that has a bit less horsepower. :)
How on earth did you track that down? That's a story worth telling !Quote:
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I'm not sure how interesting this really is, and I hate hijacking threads, but highlights are as follows. When speaking to the PO, he mentioned that the car had some race history and that the original engine had been removed to be "rebuilt" at some shop. I though to myself "oh great, it's probably in some battered old PCA auto-cross sled, tweaked to within an inch of its metallurgical life...". --I had no idea how wrong that thought was.
He said one the previous owners might know where the engine landed, and that he thought maybe the brother-in-law of the guy who owned the car prior to the guy he bought the car from may have something to do with it (yes, that's previous-previous-previous owner's brother-in-law). As part of the deal, he was going to pass the contact info on to me.
When the car arrived I skimmed through the paperwork and after some scrutiny found a name and phone number in the margin of a dirty, hand-written note. I called this multiple times and got no answer. I scoured Google for contact info for some of the previous owners, but didn't get much beyond disconnected cell phones and dead emails addresses.
A few nights later I was at my desk doing some research on "L" race cars and '68 FIA homologation rules and went back into the car's paperwork to find something. Thumbing through, I came upon an inner page of a multi-page work order from 2001 that contained another hand-scrawled name and phone number. The next morning I called. This cell phone wasn't disconnected, and the name in the voice message was the right name, so I left a message. Then I waited...called again, waited.
I called a third time and finally got an answer. Turns-out this guy IS the brother-in-law of the previous-previous-previous owner, and upon realizing that I had accidentally bumped right into the very guy I needed, I quickly and apologetically told him the story and asked if he possibly knew the whereabouts of the engine. His reply was classic; he said, "yes, I know where that motor is... it's in my house... I had it made into a coffee table." I was stunned, and really relieved that it wasn't currently residing in some race car, or a sand rail, or some other heavy-use vehicle. I asked him if he knew where the carbs were and he said that the motor is essentially in-tact, with carbs still attached.
So now we're in talks about how to swap his coffee table base for something that looks the part, while reuniting 193 with its original power plant. His terms are that he wants an exact replica of his coffee table, plus $1k, and I pay all shipping. I'm thinking that might be a bit steep...but we'll see how things progress.
Great story and congrats on tracking down the engne. I was amazed to locate the missing motor from my car and let me tell you, it's very sattisfying to reunite the chassis with its power plant after a long separation.
Best of luck to you with your negotiations. My own deal was not as favorable as the "coffee table" replacement plus $1k
I wish it was! Here's hoping the guy doesn't bend you over a barrel.
Well, the thing about the "table" I have to send him is that it must be totally spiffy clean and "new" looking. So I have to contend with tumbling replacement cases and carbs etc. -- that's an expense. Plus, the original motor will need to be rebuilt when it arrives. So it's going to be a bit more than $1k and some spare parts. -Still worth it though :)Quote:
My own deal was not as favorable as the "coffee table" replacement plus $1k
Roll call--HERE! 6 months ago I bought a 68 911L ROW Sunroof coupe. Black plate from San Diego. It is a project car --needs everything but is complete. Original color is Ossi Blue now it is silver but will paint it back to Ossi Blue. Might be some time before I can show pictures. Chris
Just noticed thread. Guess I'm really slow. Have had a L now for several years. Silver[originally Tangerine,painted in '90's] sunroof with Becker radio,automatic antenna,and wood wheel. No significant mods, but left rocker strips off. Engine appears appropriate for year, but numbers don't agree with COA. Original pans are great. Originally a Ca car,transiently in Texas.
Black plate came with it and is 68LPOR.
a couple people have chimed in with normals, so I'll add mine and give the thread a bump...
okay, here's my normal that's now part S and part R and 100% fun
I like that green-- Let me guess-- that is a 1974 Lime green color. Chris
Actually it is signal green, which was an optional color in 1968 altho my car was originally blood orange under silver and yellow when I bought it
It is a hard color to reproduce digitally on screen as it appears in pix to be lighter than in person
I just got the correct gold Sportomatic logo for the deck lid.
Here's our '68 L - original paint sand beige. The Coupe had been sitting for about 20 years in the AZ sun. The other '68 is a 'non-L' softie in factory light ivory.
Hi,
I bought this car from Bring a Trailer (BAT) where it was auctioned in January:
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http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-porsche-911e/
The car was now shipped back to Germany, and I would be happy to find out more about the car's history, especially between end 1980's and early 2000's.
As Tom Tweed's states above it appears that PO Mr. Alan Ruzicka had the car modified at TRE of North Hollywood in the mid 80's installing the 1983 3.0 CIS Euro engine and trans. After Tom's ownership (2005 - 2014 ?) the car was sold to Trissl Sports cars and then acquired by BAT.
I hope BAT puts me in contact with Mr. Ruzicka, as according to his message in the auction:Attachment 422419 he still keeps a lot of records on the car. Would be interesting to find out where there car was in between, there were some hints that the car was in the La Jolla area when Tom bought it. If anyone knows more, please let me know (PM or in this thread) - Tx & Greetings from Berlin Matthias
On a drive last year - up to Sydney (from Melbourne) for the Porsche Rennsport Australia meeting. It came 2nd in the show and shine (which was a lovely surprise) given I'd driven it 600 miles and cleaned it in the dark (with the help of my iphone flashlight!).
VIN 11810329. ROW RHD Australian Delivered 911L Coupe 5 speed.
Props to Mat for bringing this thread back to life after 6 years in hiding :). It's actually a very timely revival of this topic for me because I am getting back my 1968 911L (#11805200) from a complete engine and gearbox rebuild on Friday (I was supposed to pick it up this weekend but we're away). I've been holding off on posting a thread on the story of this car, but I figured that it was worth throwing out a "Cliff Notes" version on this 911L-specific thread...
This is basically a personal barn-find story since I put this car in storage and left it untouched for ~20 years before pulling it back out to get it back on the road. The car is a US-delivered 1968 911L coupe in Tangerine Orange (Blutorange), which has been known as "Chester" since 1992 due to it sharing the same color as Chester Cheeto from the Cheetos ad campaign. This is all numbers matching and completely original (expect for the Alpine stereo I stupidly installed in 1993 and my equally stupid decision to install door speakers!), and has been in our family since 1972.
Long story (kinda) short: My uncle bought this car from the original owner in 1972, and kept it in pristine condition throughout his ownership in Northern California. I remember this car well as a kid because he was always the "cool" uncle who drove a bright orange Porsche, and I remember more than a few rides in it as a kid. Fast forward to 1992 when I got married. My uncle decided it was finally time to pass the car on to a fellow gear-head, so he "sold" me the car (with a HEFTY family discount!) as our wedding present. So after a series of wedding showers in Northern California, we threw all the wedding gifts in the back of our sweet new-to-us 911L and drove 3 glorious days out to Chicago where it would live ever since. As fate would have it, 2 years later, I took a job to work for a French investment bank is Paris, which was supposed to be an 18 month gig before moving back to the US to work in their New York offices. So we dutifully packed up all of our stuff and threw it all into storage (including our beloved 911). Well, that 18 months stretched to 4 years in Paris and 10 years in London, with 3 boys born along the way.
While we returned to the States in 2006, life was simply too hectic with the 3 boys and a brand new life in America to adjust them to, so I left the car in storage for another 8 years. Then, almost exactly 20 years after we stored the car thinking it would be a brief stay in Europe, my awesome wife secretly organized to get the car out of storage and surprised me on my birthday with the simple gift of a set of our Porsche keys and the directive to "Go restore that thing!". That was 3 years ago, and my wait finally ends this week now that all of the mechanical work is complete! I've attached some pics from 1972 when my uncle bought it, to 2014 when we pulled it out of storage after 20 years, to driving it 2 years ago before the total rebuild that we just completed, plus the kardex. I'll post up a separate thread in a few weeks with more details when I get all of the photos of the rebuild, but I couldn't help but throw this out here now on this 911L-specific thread....
From my uncle's slide collection, taken in 1973:
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Having just unwrapped the car after 20 years in storage and heading to the shop to see if we can turn the engine over by hand:
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Driving it in 2015 after the initial restoration, pre-engine rebuild:
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Kardex:
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Hey I can join this thread now too!
I am in the process of ignoring all provenance, matching numbers engine/gearbox, low production numbers, and building US delivered 11805114 into a historic competition car :) I will use another engine though ;)
Seriously, if anyone recognizes this (formally Ossi Blue) car and has any info or history on the car I'd love to hear from you!
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Another late entry from Down Under.
RHD 911L Aussie delivered #11810525 Sportomatic, originally slate grey over red vinyl with red/black/white pepita and rear wiper ... now in 1,000 pieces undergoing a full resto ...
I might be posting on this thread in a couple of years :) Got a Canadian L shell and contemplating which direction to go.
Intention is to bring the car to former glory but I am trying to realise (in a logical mind) what that will take.
Unfortunately the original motor (3080127) was given away and used in a different car from a previous owner long ago. Tried to locate it but it seems impossible.
I have a case very close to the original (not that it really matters) but at some point I was also considering using a 1978 3.0 motor that I have (ok this idea died so don't kill me on this forum)
My 'experience' is G models and later cars so any input from you guys will help.
Bahama yellow is the authentic color of the car (coupe) - important detail for me
This 911L roll call thread is a bit dated, but reading the last post by mpane7 in 2017, it caught my eye, referencing engine number 3080127. I recently became the caretaker of 1968 911L VIN 11810125, engine number 3080126, Euro 911L, originally purchased in Germany.
This car was purchased by my Uncle, March 5th 1969, while a lieutenant in the US Army in Germany. He bought it from the original owner about a year and a half after purchased new by the original owner. He imported the car to the US. It became the first Porsche I experienced as a teenager in 1969. And, it sparked my passion for these car ever since. I have searched for this exact car over three-plus decades. Fifty five years later (2023) i was able to acquire the car. My Uncle still had the original sale receipt from when he purchased the car that validates the VIN, engine and transmission number of the car he owned, all still present in the car today in my ownership. Car is still Ossi Blue, in very used-original condition including AM/FM/SW radio, wooden steering wheel, Elephant hide interior, Pepita seats, and the original German gauges from the import conversion. Of course there is rust and other warts to be addressed over time. Needless to say, i am honored to be the current caretake of this car that is back in family...
COA:
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Photo of my Uncle in the car March 1969.
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Photo of him in the same car almost 55 years later upon my purchase of the car.
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Sensei,
Your story of your 1968 911L is eerily similar to my own ...
Like yours, my uncle was also the second owner of our 1968 911L (#11805200), having bought it in 1972 from a US Serviceman who had the US-spec'd 911L delivered to Southern California where he was stationed. My first memories of a Porsche were in seeing my uncle and his big mustache cruising around the Bay Area of Northern California in his Tangerine Orange 911 and absolutely loving that car.
Fast-forward to 1992, and after 20 of meticulous care of this awesome little car, my uncle sold it to me when I got married and so began my life as a Porsche owner and enthusiast. I wrapped up a full body and paint restoration of "Chester" a few years ago and have been driving the wheels off it from Spring to Fall before the full fury of Winter hits here in Chicago.
Here's a pic of my uncle with the car back in 1972, me and my Dad the day my wife and I drove it back from California to Chicago, as well as the day I picked it up with one of my sons from the last piece of paint and body work a few years ago (and thanks to Chuck for getting that last pic to show the right way up!!):
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Enjoy restoring this piece of Family history, and try not to total up all the bills that you'll be paying as you restore this car :)
911L Guy, thanks for your reply and for sharing your story. You are spot on, it is eerily familiar! You have a beautiful car. The Tangerine color is my favorite for early 911’s! Your Uncle’s “stash” is just as classic as the car! Your photos are great! And, you look a lot like your father in the second photo!! I am sure you have heard that before.
Thanks for sharing your story. We couldn't believe the similarity in the story when we read it. I look forward to sharing your story with my Uncle when i see him on Thanksgiving Day. The cars along with the family connection make them even more special.
I’d like to stay in touch with you, if you are amenable. It would be great to share 911L restoration stories… I am sure I can learn a lot from your experience.
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And, yes, like you and many on this Forum, I have a PCar addiction, so I am too familiar with how things add it, life is too short…
Warm regards and have a great Thanksgiving Holiday.
What helped the canary yellow car sell for $160,000-- original owner, original paint, aluminum case engine, no speaker holes on door cards, rare color, hand made engine grill, elephant hide
We have 911L SW Targa # 11855012 over here in the UK. Currently being restored. It was originally supplied to a doctor in Texas whom we tracked down but sadly he passed away before our letter reached him. We bought the car in Denver a bit over 10 years ago.
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