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Hello all. I’m sure this subject has been beaten to death but I’ve been away for a while and need a refresher course.
Scenario. 1970 911 S restored to period correct. Gorgeous, Near perfect. Color changes Ext. and Int. Engine case of 1970 911S and rest of engine true S along w MFI...... engine not matching to cars vin.
Colors per 1970 911 but not original to vin. None the less, looks like an as delivered Porsche.
FYI I will not be providing pictures at this time.
Discuss...
Thank you,
Steve
Engine # won’t match VIN. what is your soars of information for cars numbers. G
I’m the owner and it’s per the COA. Regards
I would say the color change, which usually would ding you for the cost of a bare metal repaint on a numbers matching S, is less important since the engine does not match the COA.
So assuming a no stories, top condition 2.2 S engine, and the existing paint work is first class, then my number would be deduct 20-25% for the replacement engine.
I agree. I wouldn't buy a non-matching car unless the discount was considerable...i.e. 25% or more. That's just me.
Alan
I agree with both of you. 25%+. Unless it's REALLY non-matching. Market is soft right now. Big money seems reserved for highly original cars and singer-wannabe hotrods.Quote:
Originally Posted by lopena
You would probably have to deduct around $10,000 for a repaint back to original color as well. That is not as big a deal as the missing original engine that most likely will not be found;although I have seen several cars reunited with their original engines with the help of this website. If you are lucky as a seller, the buyer likes the color as is. The other huge consideration is the body condition. Rust and crash damage is a long and very expensive process that can take years in the shop. And does the shop know how to fix the body properly? Try not to go there;although it is harder these days as most of the undamaged cars have been picked up and put away. Chris
If it is never going to be a numbers matching car, the original color is hardly relevant. I would certainly not discount for a repaint if the current paintwork was as stated in the OPs post. Just wait for a buyer that likes the color. Hopefully it's period correct color.
Deduct 25-30% for the color change and non-original motor, but remember we are in a down market so my advice to everyone is that if you don't need to sell, don't. One other thing to keep in mind is you will have a smaller pool of buyers. The top 10% guys who drive the market won't even look at a car that isn't matching numbers. If I call one of these guys with an RS that Ferry had sex in, their first question is "Is it matching numbers?" and if it isn't there isn't a 2nd phone call.
Sounds like you have a very nice car, enjoy it like it's supposed to be driven, and only sell if you have to, like someone needs a kidney have to.
---Adam
Never say never. As Chris pointed out; we've had several bingo winners here.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverc4s
I'll see the 25% hit for non-matching motor and raise it another 10%. Non-matching motor is devastating right now.
"What's it worth?"
Depends a lot on the current colors.
Hopefully the sale of the Bahia Red '71S coupe that just sold for $100k doesn't damage the market too much.