Special Colors aka 'Paint-to-Sample' . . .

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Originally Posted by LongRanger

Hey, Carl . . .

I've looked/read a lotta Porsche color charts over the years and I will say that I've never heard of this color --- Lido Gold . . . before seeing/reading about it on the '67 when it was for sale at RS . . . which was why I included it. So, if you have a color chart/sample book/brochure that shows/describes it as available for '67, then I'll update my post

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Here's Lido Gold (17656) from the Chassis Internal Service Bulletin Oct. 1970:

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Originally Posted by LongRanger

As for including Jazzman's Champagne Yellow '70 . . . while it may've been a standard Porsche color in some years --- it still required a special order to be on a car that year . . . hence the '68' prefix paint-code

As I recall, '68XX' = custom/special/paint-to-sample/non-standard paint

I guess I would just say that some colors are just more special than others

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68XX does not mean 'custom/special/paint-to-sample/non-standard paint'. It's simply the most recently used Porsche color number (in this case 6822 used for Champagne Yellow in 1968 and 1969) for that particular shade. Only when we know what Porsche charged for a color brought back from the dead will we know whether they considered the reuse of an older color code optional or paint to sample. Did they charge for an optional color or did they charge more for a paint to sample color? As usual the answer lies with the financial dept.

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Originally Posted by Carl Bauer

. . . Here's Lido Gold (17656) from the Chassis Internal Service Bulletin Oct. 1970 . . .

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Son-of-a-gun!

OK-so . . . what about before 1970 --- like, in 1967? When did this color first show-up?

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Originally Posted by Carl Bauer

. . . 68XX does not mean 'custom/special/paint-to-sample/non-standard paint'. It's simply the most recently used Porsche color number (in this case 6822 used for Champagne Yellow in 1968 and 1969) for that particular shade. Only when we know what Porsche charged for a color brought back from the dead will we know whether they considered the reuse of an older color code optional or paint to sample. Did they charge for an optional color or did they charge more for a paint to sample color? As usual the answer lies with the financial dept . . .

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Fascinating . . .

Thanks for that. I'll update my post

Good info Carl! I learnt something new today, again :)
For a long time I was confused about this paint-to-sample thing, but concluded after a while since the car was painted to match the VW color, it should be ok to call it that. Now I know it is not quite as pure as thought.

Thanks San! I found the car here in Norway and it was delivered new to California. If you know of another car in this color, it would be interesting to hear about it!

Cheers

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Originally Posted by LongRanger

Son-of-a-gun!

OK-so . . . what about before 1970 --- like, in 1967? When did this color first show-up?

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Lido Gold was first available for the 1966 Model Year and used until the end of the 1967 MY.

My 2,2 was originally 6801. So even if not technically correct to call it paint to sample, the code I get from the Factory is 9898: (Optional color to order), "check paint tag in car". I believe a "pure" paint to sample car would get the same 98 code.

As I remember "paint to sample" could also include older Porsche,VW, Audi, M/B and Opel (:)) original color codes...maybe more as well like the famous Cadillac Green 67S. Custom sample matched colors were the same price as coded colors as I remember.(It has been a while).

H

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Originally Posted by Schiefer

My 2,2 was originally 6801. So even if not technically correct to call it paint to sample, the code I get from the Factory is 9898: (Optional color to order), "check paint tag in car". I believe a "pure" paint to sample car would get the same 98 code.

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Radmund,

So, today Porsche gives you two codes for your Slate Gray '70S... 9898 to tell you it's 'optional color to order' and 6801 to denote the actual color. Interesting! I wonder if the Kardex shows both or just the 6801?

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Originally Posted by varunan123

I can only comment on 997 GT3RS reventlow blue and Oslo blue were same cost,reventlow custom Von Dutch color and Oslo blue 356 62 one year color..........so I understand where Carl is coming form paint to sample vs rare or Old color

Raj

Reventlow blue rejected because they could not get consistency on three materials.my understanding is that family colors had their own code but who really knows

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Raj,

When you ordered your GT3RS you initially wanted Reventlow Blue? That's an inspired choice... too bad it didn't work out! Did you supply Porsche with some kind of Reventlow Blue code or did you send them a color sample to match?

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Originally Posted by Harvey Weidman

Custom sample matched colors were the same price as coded colors as I remember.(It has been a while).

H

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Well that pretty much seals it. If you wanted a color other than the standard or optional offerings during the current color cycle you paid a 'paint to sample price' no matter if the 'sample' came from an older Porsche color, a color from a different manufacturer or a tube of lipstick. If you paid for paint to sample I think it's fair to say your car is paint to sample :)

Wish I had one!

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Originally Posted by Carl Bauer

Well that pretty much seals it. If you wanted a color other than the standard or optional offerings during the current color cycle you paid a 'paint to sample price' no matter if the 'sample' came from an older Porsche color, a color from a different manufacturer or a tube of lipstick. If you paid for paint to sample I think it's fair to say your car is paint to sample :)

Wish I had one!

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Eric will probably know the price for sure.
We referred to all of the cars that were painted anything different than the stock or optional colors as "paint to sample" even if the sample was last years color....
H