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  1. #241
    Thank you Allen. Going through some old pictures one. This one is labeled 1968 912 Wrenches. Interesting to see the 17/19 size is a Selected Steel. I do not know the story for SWB tool kits, but I know the following story for sure and saw many examples of it. Starting in 1973's, Porsche was running out of DFS wrenches. So they started using SSS's. The first size to run out was the 17/19 sizes. So you would see 1973-1975 tool kits with 17/19 SSS (milled) and the rest being DFS (not milled). I saw many 76-77 tool kits with DIN 895 stamped 17/19's and the rest being SSS stamps. So it looks like it carried over to next generation tool kits.

    Anyway, here are some wrenches that were in a 1968 912 tool kit, DFS's do not have milled ends, open to discussion if they are correct or not. Would be good to learn. I don't have them anymore so cannot take more pictures.
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  2. #242
    1974-75 Tool Kit, I do not have it anymore.

    Not sure what the cut off year for the forum is. I have ~100 911 tool kits for up to 1997 models, so let me know when to stop. I have decent amount of post-78 tool kits in unmolested NOS condition.
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  3. #243
    Quote Originally Posted by ozbeycem View Post
    1974-75 Tool Kit, I do not have it anymore.

    Not sure what the cut off year for the forum is. I have ~100 911 tool kits for up to 1997 models, so let me know when to stop. I have decent amount of post-78 tool kits in unmolested NOS condition.
    CEM, post 1973 kits are beyond the normal purview of this thread/list. Personally, I don't know much about them. Thanks.

    -Allen-

  4. #244
    These are the early 10,000V screwdrivers I have mentioned. Only saw them in SWB 912 tool kits, one was a 1968 I remember. The flat tip screwdriver has the hubcap puller like the other versions, that's how I concluded that they were meant for a Porsche when I first saw them. I do not have the screwdrivers anymore.
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  5. #245
    Quote Originally Posted by ozbeycem View Post
    Thank you Allen. Going through some old pictures one. This one is labeled 1968 912 Wrenches. Interesting to see the 17/19 size is a Selected Steel. I do not know the story for SWB tool kits, but I know the following story for sure and saw many examples of it. Starting in 1973's, Porsche was running out of DFS wrenches. So they started using SSS's. The first size to run out was the 17/19 sizes. So you would see 1973-1975 tool kits with 17/19 SSS (milled) and the rest being DFS (not milled). I saw many 76-77 tool kits with DIN 895 stamped 17/19's and the rest being SSS stamps. So it looks like it carried over to next generation tool kits.

    Anyway, here are some wrenches that were in a 1968 912 tool kit, DFS's do not have milled ends, open to discussion if they are correct or not. Would be good to learn. I don't have them anymore so cannot take more pictures.
    CEM, I think these are later DFG's wrenches with large font and YES milled ends. I believe by this time (I'm just looking at the pix) that the milling was very fine, so you can't really see it but they are so smooth it is hard to see. In ANY case they are NOT the normal un-milled slightly uneven ones we see. Of course, when you (or anyone) then throws in a non-DFG it throws off the whole discussion of "original." I go back to "the gold standard," which is large font, milled ends DFG'd. Thanks.

    -Allen-

  6. #246
    Quote Originally Posted by ozbeycem View Post
    These are the early 10,000V screwdrivers I have mentioned. Only saw them in SWB 912 tool kits, one was a 1968 I remember. The flat tip screwdriver has the hubcap puller like the other versions, that's how I concluded that they were meant for a Porsche when I first saw them. I do not have the screwdrivers anymore.
    Stated earlier in the thread, 10,000 Volt screwdrivers were generic German for the period. It might be the photo but ALL the handles we've seen on the thread are more translucent. These seem to be outlier; not "de facto" standard. However, the wide blade (to hold the pulley) does look unique to Porsche. Maybe the manufacturer had an off day..to much beer for Hans at lunch. List member commments? Thanks.

    -Allen-

  7. #247
    Comparison of Philips Klein screwdrivers. The bottom one is a reproduction. I do not know the difference between the top two in terms of which years they are correct for.

    I found the perfect originals to have these reproductions made back in 2007-2008, I wasn't involved in the reproduction. I paid $500 for the perfect pair, it was a lot of money back then. They were so hard to find even a decade ago that a very nice gentlemen decided to make some reproductions to help the community. I see these tool kits for sale out there with perfect Kleins, hopefully this will help in identifying the repros. In person they are easy to identify, they are lighter than the originals.
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  8. #248
    Agreed Allen, I have owned maybe 50+ LWB tool kits and all had the translucent handles. I have never seen these versions in a LWB tool kit, or a 911 tool kit.
    Thanks,
    Cem
    Quote Originally Posted by Allen Henderson View Post
    Stated earlier in the thread, 10,000 Volt screwdrivers were generic German for the period. It might be the photo but ALL the handles we've seen on the thread are more translucent. These seem to be outlier; not "de facto" standard. However, the wide blade (to hold the pulley) does look unique to Porsche. Maybe the manufacturer had an off day..to much beer for Hans at lunch. List member commments? Thanks.

    -Allen-

  9. #249
    Comparison of 4 different tool bags you can see for 1973 manufacture 911's. There are two versions of the button type, earlier one is shorter than the later one. The lug wrench for the earlier one is different than the later one (for 1974) cars, 1974 lug wrench will be too tall for the early version. These shorter ones came with Phoenix belts from what I have seen so far, the latest date I saw was June 1973 on the belts.
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  10. #250
    Probably have many of these posted, one more for reference.
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