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    What a shame...

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    That's heartbreaking. I feel for him. On a smaller note, my buddy built up a 924 Carrera GT replica many years ago. He did a great job on the car and would have been a great head turner. The night before it was due to go to the paint shop it was lost in a barn fire.

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    I really hope that everyone survives this loss intact: it is a real shame to lose such cars.

    However, from a technical perspective, I would like to know what happens to the inherent strength of the metal in these chassis when they are subject to such extreme temperatures?

    I am not a metallurgist but thought that it would weaken the metal to the point where it is unusable? I would appreciate some insight here from people who know about such things!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I don't know how the car's professionals behave in US about insurance. In Switzerland, I know that these guys (mechanicals especially) put money on the tools, the company, the parts, and old chassis to renovate, but not on insurances! Especially if they own a car since some years, which value increased so much last 12 months! Imagine the rate of a car insurance for ... 2 millions $! A car you could have buy a year ago for the half. And a 1/10 15 years ago. If John Skoein own this beauty (2.8 RSR, what else...?) since the 80's, as it seems to be the case, I'm afraid the insurance's value didn't match the actually market's price!!!
    I hope I'm wrong, but the loss is big: first for the historic of the brand, second for the passion of the owner, third for his car's collection and fourth for the money! As a pure fan of 2.8 RSR I'm really sad and I hope John Skoein will carry on and rebuild the car. Goof luck to him and best wishes from Switzerland
    Sadly, in the US, business insurance is largely a criminal racket. In a situation like this the typical company will 1.) deny the claim and 2.) cancel the policy.

    I hope this is an exception, but recognize that no amount of insurance money can make that RSR original again. Nor the other cars; nor the 40 years of work. So sad.
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    I suspect that this is going to end up in court for years. First we have the question of the owner's insurance. Then we have the question of the shop's insurance. Sometimes your insurance may reimburse you and then they go after the shop's insurance company. Once the lawyers get involved it gets really messy. I suspect we're talking about well over a million dollars here. Easily.

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    The fire department said the fire was deliberately set, most likely due to some homeless people that were is the area the night before.
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    I am speechless and sad...
    This is not right.
    Seeing the orange RSR at RGruppe Treffen in Sonoma 2006 makes this feel like loosing something personal... : (((((
    Remember this car and Eades RS fireing up parallel...
    I STILL HEAR IT!!!!
    Good moments - now added with a very bitte note...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richardnew View Post
    I suspect that this is going to end up in court for years. First we have the question of the owner's insurance. Then we have the question of the shop's insurance. Sometimes your insurance may reimburse you and then they go after the shop's insurance company. Once the lawyers get involved it gets really messy. I suspect we're talking about well over a million dollars here. Easily.

    Richard Newton
    lol!

    What it this, an Austin Powers movie?

    Try $4/5M+ just in cars. Then throw in customer's engines, parts, etc. on top of that.

    This is a shop owner's worst nightmare.

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    Restoring the RSR would be like, stuffing Trigger.......RIP.... maybe the other signifigant cars too!
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