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    Why do so many people think increased value is a bad thing? A few years back people complained that their house was dropping in value. Now people are complaining that their cars are increasing in value.

    Or, is it the people who never bought a car or a house that are upset?

    Personally, I'm not at all upset that my cars are worth more today than they were last year. I still drive them and I still work on them. So - what's the downside of owning an appreciating asset?

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    I don't think it's a bad thing at all. But it does weigh more on people minds... risk vs enjoyment. Obviously the "value" or "worth" of a car will vary from owner to owner and it's probably proportional to their relative income. If I'm ripping about a race track in an uninsured race car worth more than my annual income, the weight of the potential loss sits heavily on me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishcop View Post
    I have a little boy that I want the best for (don't we all ). I can't help but think that either one of these cars will put him through a quality private school and university/college and that I should be smart about capitalising on at least one of them. I'm a regular joe otherwise and can't afford private school fees...
    I understand this completely. We have three boys who each went to 8 years of private school followed by 4 years at university. It wasn't till our youngest was in his second year of university that I satisfied my long outstanding desire to own a long hood 911. That was in January of 2013. Good thing I didn't wait til he graduated as prices seem to be up about 40% since I bought mine and posted about that purchase here:

    http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...p/t-82098.html

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    We used to have an expression in racing. "If you can't afford to drive it off a cliff then you shouldn't bring it here." If you want to have fun at the track maybe get a Spec Miata. Keep the 911 for your street car.

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    I'm not kidding myself, I just dont care. Maybe I'll care someday, but I dont know. The only thing I care about is people charging $5-10,000 for a set of seats, $750 steering wheels or $1500 for something stupid like oil lines. THAT obscene crap is what irritates me.
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    Kris, when a car that used to cost $50,000 now costs $ 150,000 to 250,000 and even rusty frankensteins sell for the cost of a mint SC, we better get used to the $$$ pricing for parts and spending more for insuring our cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by w00tPORSCHE View Post
    Kris, when a car that used to cost $50,000 now costs $ 150,000 to 250,000 and even rusty frankensteins sell for the cost of a mint SC, we better get used to the $$$ pricing for parts and spending more for insuring our cars.
    Well, thats the beans I guess. I really barely have the lifestyle to keep this thing going as it is. I hope it doesnt get too much crazier.
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    I am looking at my cars as an heirloom. Not for the $$ value, but for the driving value. I have three daughters, and they grew up seeing me restore cars. I also taught them how to drive a stick in the 911. I figure, it will be a nice memory of me. Hopefully I have another 30-40 years to enjoy the ride though. I also have a nice 928S4, and looking to find a 930 cab. I do have to say, the 71e is just a great car. I alway am amazed when I drive it just haw responsive it is. I guess I am glad to see the values increasing, glad to see the cars are getting the recognition they actually deserve. Too bad they are going to get locked up in some dumb collection. You will see mine on the mountain roads on most weekends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrentF View Post
    These are precisely my sentiments:

    "Keith Martin, longtime publisher of Portland, Ore.-based Sports Car Market newsletter, counsels collectors with a yen and wallet for an early air-cooled car to “skip the early S model, and look for a 911 (E or T) from 1969 to 1973, which will be half the price (of a $200,000 S) but offer 95% of the driving pleasure.”
    I think KM is dead wrong. The best fastest ORIGINAL model of any car always holds value better than any of the lesser models in that same line even if upgraded to match. Maybe ask KM why an AR GTA is worth 5+ times a similar GTV and a two carb AR car is worth 3 times as much as the same car with the single carb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankr View Post
    I think KM is dead wrong. The best fastest ORIGINAL model of any car always holds value better than any of the lesser models in that same line even if upgraded to match. Maybe ask KM why an AR GTA is worth 5+ times a similar GTV and a two carb AR car is worth 3 times as much as the same car with the single carb.
    Driving pleasure is not the same as dollar value.

    Is it possible you misunderstood Mr. Martin's comment?

    I believe he's spot on AND the T/E models are probably undervalued at the moment. It happened with the 356 market and there's good reason to believe it will happen again with the 911 market. Model disparity tends to equalize somewhat over time.

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