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    Ray, you're not the first to ask: check it out buddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Breazeale View Post
    Part numbers on 914 wheels

    914 347 805 10................... Leather covered, rubber rimmed steering wheel 70/71 914/4 and 914/6 and physically the same as 73 Carrera RSs. (The best choice for 911s) These are the ones
    that are flat on the front.
    914 347 806 10...................Consensus choice as the correct 73 Carrera RS 380MM steering wheel
    914 347 803 10................... Plastic rimmed 70/71 914/4 steering wheel (You can cover these in leather and they work just fine. Double wrap them and they are even better)
    914 347 805 11....................Leather covered 72 914/4 steering wheel (with 90 degree counter sink) Not the best choice but they do work better than the later 914/4 wheels with the
    beveled counter sink.
    914 347 804 11....................Plastic rimmed late 914/4 wheel
    914 347 809 00....................74 and later 914/4 "simulated leather" wheels. These things are junk!

    Bottom line.........................If it is flat on the front it is best and if it is beveled it will work but not great

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    Jim
    Reviving an important thread as I wish to ask some questions about core materials.

    I have compared both 803.10 and a standard 400mm steering wheel. I found the latter to have a slight spongy feel whereas the former has a harder feel to it.

    As Jim rightly stated above, plastic versus rubber rimmed. My preference is the rubber version (spongy feel), which brings me to the question: Was there ever a thick circumference rubber cored 380mm steering wheel?

  3. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by blue72s View Post
    Reviving an important thread as I wish to ask some questions about core materials.

    I have compared both 803.10 and a standard 400mm steering wheel. I found the latter to have a slight spongy feel whereas the former has a harder feel to it.

    As Jim rightly stated above, plastic versus rubber rimmed. My preference is the rubber version (spongy feel), which brings me to the question: Was there ever a thick circumference rubber cored 380mm steering wheel?
    Rounders (steering wheels in this case)

    OK. all this stuff has been covered ad nauseam but I'll chime in as I think there remains (perhaps I'm wrong and someone can post the link) a misconception about "914" wheels..the ones with the counter sink on the front (toward the driver) and the bevel on the back of the wheel where it mates with the steering column shaft. These wheels will fit just fine on 911's. Yes (how many angels can stand on the head of a pin?) the mating between the wheel and the shaft, at the (back, front of of the car) bevel, is not perfect but given all the splines and the length of them, the wheel when tightened is solid as a rock Now, yes, one needs to modify the wheel for the 911 cancel ring, but the wheel will fit just ducky. I had a buyer long ago unhappy after reading that an extended thick trip "914" wheel I sold didn't fit...from a post in this long thread..that was not right! As for the 803.10 plastic wheel, this was the basis for the RSR wheel, that is same part number. BUT the 803.10 RSR wheel has padding and then the leather on top. How can we tell if an 803.10 wheel is an "RSR" wheel? From the date code. However, sure, yes, an early circa 1970 803.10 Might have become an RSR wheel, how would we know? Impossible perhaps. Here is MY original 803. 10 wheel...Also see post #53 below, and others Thanks.
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    Last edited by Allen Henderson; 02-11-2020 at 05:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue72s View Post
    Reviving an important thread as I wish to ask some questions about core materials.

    I have compared both 803.10 and a standard 400mm steering wheel. I found the latter to have a slight spongy feel whereas the former has a harder feel to it.

    As Jim rightly stated above, plastic versus rubber rimmed. My preference is the rubber version (spongy feel), which brings me to the question: Was there ever a thick circumference rubber cored 380mm steering wheel?
    Starting in '73 both the 380mm and 400mm wheels got a fake leather wrap that was a little thicker. When you say you had a standard 400mm version that was spongy what was the date code on it?
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  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by mfitton View Post
    Starting in '73 both the 380mm and 400mm wheels got a fake leather wrap that was a little thicker. When you say you had a standard 400mm version that was spongy what was the date code on it?
    My 400mm is late '69. It'a real leather. The spongy feel is very slight you'd have to press quite hard to get that feel. The plastic steering wheels (803.10) don't have that - it's rock hard.

    Hence my question - was there ever a rubber-based thick 380mm steering wheels?

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    Hi all - Enjoyed this thread so thought I'd throw in my 2c worth (as a 911 and 914-6 Owner)

    Firstly there were 2 914-6 wheels, leather was optional the Hard Rubber 914.347.803.10 and Leather 914.347.806.10 (Same number as Carrera RS, Date codes earlier - photo below - see later comment), The other wheel I have is an 914.347.805.10 Dated 6/70 which has been also called leather but the one I have is soft rubber/faux leather (moulded in stitching) and I wonder if that is a bit of poetic licence or a misprint in the 914 parts manual see Autoatlanta or they downgraded it to cut costs, either way it is a 70-71 Wheel, In the Dr B Johnson book I think he is in error when he states firstly that 914 wheel were 400mm and that the splines were different, this just adds to the confusion

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  7. #127
    Rounders,

    The later, sunken hub, faux leather wheel should be 809 10 part number. If your number is different, it is likely a factory mistake. Please double check. Yes, 914 wheels are ALL 380mm..that's the whole point ! The base 803 10 wheel, ebonite, was often covered with felt and leather and became the de facto standard wheel of the RSR. Thanks.

    -Allen-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allen Henderson View Post

    The later, sunken hub, faux leather wheel should be 809 10 part number. If your number is different, it is likely a factory mistake.

    -Allen-
    It's not a later 'sunken hub' wheel, that's the point, dated 6/70, unless someone can post a picture of a real leather wheel numbered 914.347.805.10? The other side looks like this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neven View Post
    It's not a later 'sunken hub' wheel, that's the point, dated 6/70, unless someone can post a picture of a real leather wheel numbered 914.347.805.10? The other side looks like this
    IMG_20200331_213623.jpg
    Your 805.10 wheel dated 6/70 with a flat hub and has a fake leather cover with embossed stitching. Please provide pictures of the whole wheel front and back those fake leather covers did not start until late '72 for '73 cars.
    Mike Fitton # 2071
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    2012 991 Platinum Silver ( Gone)
    1971 911T Targa Bahia Red (Gone to France)
    1995 911 Carrera Polar Silver (Gone)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfitton View Post
    Your 805.10 wheel dated 6/70 with a flat hub and has a fake leather cover with embossed stitching. Please provide pictures of the whole wheel front and back those fake leather covers did not start until late '72 for '73 cars.
    +1 ! I think Mike (and me) are questioning your wheel and Mike is just stating at the start of his post YOUR statement. Thanks.
    Last edited by Allen Henderson; 04-02-2020 at 11:29 AM.

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