1969 Soft window targa question

[Jules Dielen]

All,

If I understand the literature correctly, by MY 1969/ LWB the soft window became an option on the targa. Is there anything on what the order code would be to get a soft window? I did a search and found a bit of info but nothing really definitive. From what I found for 1969 is an option code 9354 and 9355 for a fixed rear window and 9311 for a rear window wiper, but then I saw a Kardex for a targa without the 9354/55 for the fixed rear window but WITH a 9311 for the wiper? I would love to find out more on these few rare cars. Thank you

[LiveFromNY]

To my understanding, it was not an option in '69. Just something a few were able to special order through their dealers by asking. I could be wrong, but if it was an official option I'd expect there to be many more of these.

[LongRanger]

Need to do a more-thorough search here, but --- member jpnovak has a '71 SWT listed in his signature line . . .

. . . and I believe that SWTs have been reported as late as '72


What I find interesting is that --- so far, anyway . . . there doesn't seem to be any documentation from Porsche that the SWT set-up was fitted originally . . . = no way to document it

In fact, the only way to tell that such a car was originally built as a SWT seems to be the presence of a some few/subtle bits-&-pieces . . . classified-kinda stuff --- especially for the people who restore these cars

ANY SWT LWB car is extremely rare. And anyone owning one should consider themselves very fortunate to have such a Very Special Little Beastie

Another thread . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...-%91S%92-Targa

[beh911]

I have a number of kardexes for what are purported to be 69S SWTs. And there is not a consistent notation across these kardexes that give an indication of SWT being on the car. There are some unknown notations (to me), but again, they aren't consistent across the sample.

Either the sample is not entirely SWTs, or I am missing something subtle.

I don't know if this throws a wrench in the fabled "there are only 6 known 69S SWTs" truth we have all come to accept, but it appears there were more than this number produced.

Ibrahim (kuzu356) may have some input on the subject of how these cars were documented as SWT. He learned a lot when researching the lost VIN on his example... 119310166

[LongRanger]

. . . don't know if this throws a wrench in the fabled "there are only 6 known 69S SWTs" truth we have all come to accept, but it appears there were more than this number produced . . .

In '69, there are eight SWT 'S's accounted for . . . . . . so far

[LongRanger]

Another post . . .

. . . Where is Eric when you need him? A couple of observations and one aha for me:

It seems the soft window could be ordered as a no cost option until 1972. The oldest SW Targa I have seen for sale was a 1972 T with steel wheels in yellow at the Oldtimergarage Memmingen in Germany (Claimed numbers matching, cardex correct with the SW and the last built). This was about 4 - 5 years ago.

I know of a few 1970 and 1971 T SWT around. Don has his perfectly rerstored one, there is another gentleman who has an all original blue 70 SWT in Huntington Beach and a few others overseas.

The sand beige 70S is a really interesting find as I (And a few others) always assumed the last SWT Esses were built in 1969 (With about 6 around globally and a few in the usual long-term ownership hands of members here on this board). So this car is really, really interesting to me as it might be the last S SWT built? Anybody with more insights?

Mike . . .

[edmayo]

The last mention of SWT parts in the parts book is 1971.

[Jules Dielen]

Interesting piece I got from a very trustworthy source who did a lot of research. A 69 S with option code 9356 SOFT WIN. (engine/trans and key info were partly blanked out)

That to me would indicate there was an official option code for a Soft window, at least in 1969? I had never seen this before and could not find 9356 in any literature so far.

Is the car still around?

[curtisaa]

Being a SWT aficionado , the factory did NOT delineate between Targa ( glass ) or SWT. I have asked Germany this several times and the correct answer seems to be
NO. Being the ex-owner of the Irish Green SWT being offered here for $225,000.00 and current of a "few" SWB SWT's I have spent way too much time trying to find bits and pieces of info.

So. in the words of Sir Paul, "Let it be".....

[Jules Dielen]

Curt, what is your idea on the info on 119310107 above? The option code 9356 clearly states SOFT WIN. I have never seen it before on a LWB. The hard window option on MY 68 cars seems to be clearly noted on cars that came with a glass window (i have seen a few of those), but the SWT option for MY69 seems foggy at best.

Could the "SG" indicate an option group that includes the SWT?

Looks like 107 is still black and looking good! See post:

http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...ight=119310107