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    Well It's hello from Longstone.

    Yes Pirelli are making the 165HR15 Cinturato again. https://www.cinturato.net/pirelli-cinturato-ca67/

    these are Genuine Pirelli Cinturato tyres. http://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/page...rato-ca67.html

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    Anyone here running the Blockley on a show car? I like the idea of having the correct size and pattern I just wish it had Dunlop on the side wall. I think at a quick glance the dog bone pattern would show well, nut the Pirelli name may be better. I am all about running one of the tires on the Porsche approved list I would just prefer it match the Kardex

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    when I inquired at coker tire about Michelin classic tire 165/15 tires, I was told xas required a tube but xzx did not, Any one have any input on this? The xas has a higher speed rating, safety tubes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim amato View Post
    when I inquired at coker tire about Michelin classic tire 165/15 tires, I was told xas required a tube but xzx did not, Any one have any input on this? The xas has a higher speed rating, safety tubes?
    I guess the Michelin XAS was originally designed without a bead which will seal against the rim and hasn't been updated.

    I have dim memories that high performance cars tended to get tubeless tires a little later than say, American sedans, and I think the older Fuchs wheels lack the "J" designation for a lip designed better to retain tubeless tire beads. But, I can't find any sources to back up my memory.

    At any rate, if you get the Michelin XAS, don't even think about running them tubeless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeunElf View Post
    I have dim memories that high performance cars tended to get tubeless tires a little later than say, American sedans, and I think the older Fuchs wheels lack the "J" designation for a lip designed better to retain tubeless tire beads. But, I can't find any sources to back up my memory.
    All the 901 Fuchs wheels are J

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeunElf View Post
    I guess the Michelin XAS was originally designed without a bead which will seal against the rim and hasn't been updated.

    I have dim memories that high performance cars tended to get tubeless tires a little later than say, American sedans, and I think the older Fuchs wheels lack the "J" designation for a lip designed better to retain tubeless tire beads. But, I can't find any sources to back up my memory.

    At any rate, if you get the Michelin XAS, don't even think about running them tubeless.
    Thanks for your input Jim, I like the xas over the zxz but I am not overly excited about going to tube type tires
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    Finally I understand the J! Thank you for that Harvey, bugged me for a long time!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Harvey Weidman View Post
    All the 901 Fuchs wheels are J

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    I've found the XAS to feel much better than the ZXZ. But, I do have the ZXZ on my show wheels.

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    Hi

    Yes the 165HR15 Michelin XAS are tube type tyres. Which is not a problem they always were tube type. and fitting a tube is not a bad thing. I would recommend fitting Michelin tubes they are not expensive.

    The XAS came out in 1965.

    The 165HR15 Pirelli Cinturato is an original tyre that Porsche fitted in period. It is actually a branded tyre made by Pirelli. The Cinturato is a tubeless tyre so it can be fitted with or without a tube what ever suits.

    Does anyone have any pictures of an early 911 fitting 165HR15 or 185/70VR15 Cinturato. either from period or with the new production.

    Both the Pirelli and the XAS are genuine period tyres that are actually manufactured by themselves

    The XZX tyres are fine for a Beatle, but they aren't really sports car tyres you need a carcase that is made to suit.

    what tyres did the Saint fit?

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    Well I have decided to go with Pirelli 165hr15,"ordered 5 from "LONGSTONE TYRE", thanks to all that commented here, it helped in the decision making process, the manufacture date of 11-2014 was a big input as well,and if someone ask I will tell them that's what the saint fitted!
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