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Thread: Seinfeld vs. SCM: restore or enjoy the patina

  1. 10-04-2016, 10:02 PM #61
    Varooom
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    There is a HUGE difference with a true, untouched 'Barn find' and a 'well' used, beat to hell and back, total mess that has so little left on it. This looks to be the case on this orange red yellow, and black top Speedster above. Yes, the blue Seinfeld car is a bit 'un-original as stated but it is in no way compatible to this mess being offered. Hey, It's still a real car and needs love and help and worth money, yes. But lets not even compare it to a true unmolested car. GLWS to whoever owns it.
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  2. 10-05-2016, 10:50 AM #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by a911s View Post
    This photograph was made at Treffen 2014. It was a Porsche with a lid that looked like it had been in a fire. Not sure if the car was.
    That lid came from a 68 912 that I bought from the Original owner after an engine fire. The car has been repaired and sold to a new owner. The "patinaed" rear lid is still in use on a 911 that attended Treffen.

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  3. 10-06-2016, 02:53 PM #63
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    Barn Finds are generally not well loved cars. The people who parked them generally had no attachment to them. They just stopped using the car one day and never looked back.

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  4. 10-07-2016, 02:36 PM #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richardnew View Post
    Barn Finds are generally not well loved cars. The people who parked them generally had no attachment to them. They just stopped using the car one day and never looked back.

    Richard Newton
    That's exactly what happened to my '67... He just stopped driving it for no particular reason.

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  5. 10-08-2016, 01:19 AM #65
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    I couldn't agree more: Barn finds are generally not well loved cars.

    Seinfeld's purchase is one thing I find difficult to comment on as it's his money and he does what he wants with it, and people often get a bit carried away when bidding, etc....

    On the preservation side, I think the market (auctions & dealers) are confusing (wonder why ;-) ) barn finds and preserved cars.

    In my view, the holy grail is to find a car in its original condition that's been driven and taken care of by one or two devoted owners, who meticulously and lovingly looked after and maintained their Porsche for several decades. The car isn't new but aged well, which doesn't mean rusty with torn seats. It's a car that can be safely driven as is and with regular maintenance, and that has patina and wear "just right" from years of proper care.

    To me that's what a preserved car means.

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  6. 10-08-2016, 03:54 AM #66
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    The orange Sotheby`s Speedster sold for $341K
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