not a lot larger in dimensions - so check the specs. don't go by eye
not a lot larger in dimensions - so check the specs. don't go by eye
Height:
1964 901 = 1,320 mm
2015 911 = 1,297 mm
-23mm = -1.7%
Width:
1964 901 = 1,610 mm
2015 911 = 1,880 mm
+270 mm = +16.7%
Length:
1964 901 = 4,163 mm
2015 911 = 4,507 mm
+344mm = +8.26%
Wheelbase:
1964 901 = 2,211 mm
2015 911 = 2,450 mm
+239 mm = +10.8%
Kerb Weight:
1964 901 = 1,080kg
2015 911 = 1,595kg
+515kg = +47.7%
Accept that weight is significantly increased... but other dimensions, excluding height, are fairly big bumps (for a sportscar....)
1966 911 Coupe - Slate Grey - 304598 - still in restoration!
Member #1616
well it's all relative - good of you to post it all here
most are < 11% increases - would you have guessed that by eyeballing them?
I like how simple old VW's are and how there is no heater fan or vacuum controlled stuff and the steering is direct and light with no heavy engine sitting on the front wheels, one belt, etc. and SWBS is the best VW, but with the power and brakes I always wanted. Tach. sitting as primary gauge! yeah! and finally enough oil.
I like throttle steering.
Even smells right.
Tucson AZ.
I like how they smell, I like how they start when I turn the key, I love the way the doors ping when I shut them. I love how I am always smiling when I get in and out. I love how I never turn the radio on.
Phil
Early S Junkie # 658
$9000 spark plug wrenches.
-Kris Clewell
Professional photojournalist
red decklid club member #1
Love how every time I park and get out I always turn back to look at it as I walk away with a grin from ear to ear!
65 356SC Dolphin Gray
66 912 Green
69 911E Tangerine
72 911T GP White
72 911T Aubergine
72 911T Lilac
72 911S Black (voodoo)
86 911 GP White Targa (now sons)
90 964C4 Black Targa
94 964C2 Black Coupe
08 GT3 Speed Yellow
I love it that the "Oh Shit" handle gets used and abused.
Glenn Halperin
Early 911S Registry Member #2956
I might stir a debate w my argument, but while I agree to all above, have you guys actually drove newer models or just merely looked at them?
While the 991 indeed is a larger car it drives quite superb and its imo still a pretty design.
And my recently aquired 997 is a absolute huge joy to ride. Its feels short compare to modern cars but has the right proportions where it needs.., nothing is large and nothing feels heavy.
After 10 year owning an early 911 and driving/testing all others aircooled models (2.0l, 2.2, 2.4, 2.7, 3.2, 964, 993 and ex-Milou's S/T), of the newer cars the 997.1 comes very close. It still has the soul of the early's while also has a firm leg in today's world. Plus imo it has stunning looks.
There is something nice to know that today still exist a modern car who transmits things we all like in older 911's..and still has the engine in the back.
I love all aircooled early's (now at least 20 years old so all are feeling vintage) but nothing comes close to the engine's whine of the rather modern 997 driving at 250km/h on a stretch of autobahn...and still pushing from behind like a unleashed beast. But also perfect for going to groceries taking my 2 young kids with it. Its still feels very much like a true 911.
Maybe Im the only one judging both aircooled and watercooled cars being equal (but not similar) and I need to wait another 10 years for followers...
Last edited by 911T1971; 02-03-2016 at 02:39 AM.
Registry member No.773
Karim,
I agree. Especially for someone like me who is in the service/repair biz for these cars.
Later cars are like a wealthy uncle who you genuinely like and he gives you money.
While many of the parts border on solid waste, the cars themselves drive brilliantly. Try pitching any early car as hard into a corner as one of these and you'll find yourself screaming for mommy. As Karim says they are a blast to drive and make everyone a hero when driven with spirit. The nice thing about 997.1 S cars currently is that you're simply buying the hardware. No premium for nostalgia or other collector based crap.