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    Early 911S Registry # 237 NeunElf's Avatar
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    Was this the video you watched http://p101tv.com/article_view.php?article=50?
    Jim Alton
    Torrance, CA
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    1965 Porsche 911 coupe
    1958 Porsche 356A cabriolet

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    Early 911S Registry # 237 NeunElf's Avatar
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    In fact, all of these headlight units lights except the H1s can be equipped with H4s through one means or another:

    Year Covered Sealed Beams Sugar Scoops Euro Tungsten P45t H1s H4s
    1965-1967 USA 911-912 non USA 911-912
    1968 USA 911-912 non USA 911-912 except 911S after Coupé 1180226 & Targa 1185065 non USA 911S after Coupé 1180226 & Targa 1185065
    1969 USA 911-912 non USA 912 non USA 911
    1970-1971 USA 911 non USA 911
    1972-1989 USA 911, 912E non USA 911
    H4s via 7" H4 inserts 7" H4 inserts H4 bulb with P45t base only H1s H4s standard
    Jim Alton
    Torrance, CA
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    1965 Porsche 911 coupe
    1958 Porsche 356A cabriolet

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    Before and after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhopkins View Post
    Before and after.
    The headlights in the top picture--inside the sugar scoops--look like Hella 7" H4 inserts because they have flat faces. Sierra Madre Collection sells Hella 7" H4 inserts for about $ 67 (but they're on sale now). Given some labor for changing them and aiming them, $ 200 installed doesn't seem too unreasonable, if that's what you paid $ 200 for.

    Personally, I'd do it myself. I think it would take me 10 minutes or so to change the headlight inserts and maybe 30 minutes to aim them after I found a wall to show the light patterns.

    Maybe it could have cost as little as $ 150. I think the problem isn't financial so much as a disappointment over trouble communicating with the shop. It can be difficult to accurately specify precisely which headlight unit you want since almost all Porsche 911 headlights can be equipped with H4 bulbs.

    The chrome trim rings in the lower picture with the Porsche H4 headlight assemblies looks normal to me.
    Jim Alton
    Torrance, CA
    Early 911S Registry # 237

    1965 Porsche 911 coupe
    1958 Porsche 356A cabriolet

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    Jim,
    I am really starting to develop a negative about this garage. It is the shop's responsibility
    to understand correctly what the customer (me) wants done. I have gone through a learning
    curve about headlights. When I asked for these lights I didn't know much about them other
    than that I wanted H4s with the narrow chrome trim ring. Now I would have phrased it better.
    Later when I saw what the shop
    had done the owner claimed that he had never seen an early car like mine with these only later cars.
    I ended up doing the job myself and the $200 was totally wasted. I think I should ask for my
    money back but don't want to create bad feelings. The main reason for the shop visit was a
    concern with the gauge harness. Get this, the shop found the problem but did not want to
    work on it because of worry this would leave them open to liability issues.
    Don Hopkins
    1970 911T
    2006 Cayman S

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