Correct Hirschmann Manual Antenna for 911 1965/66

[Michael Winters]

Hello,

Looking for the correct Hirschmann Manual Antenna for my 911 BY 1965 MY 1966 car.
I read that Hirschmann is still making this antenna...
Also that the correct and original antenna have a black knob on the antenna.
And that the new ones have a metal knob...?

Anyone experience of buying these with Koenigs-Klassik.de?

Some stuff that I need to watch out with? Advice?
Maybe image of the correct antenna?

Thanks

[joegt3cup]

I am not aware of any source where you can get a 100% correct one new.
I have no experience with Koenigs-Klassik.de or what they offer perhaps someone else can add to this.

[NeunElf]

As to what a correct Hirschmann antenna should look like, here are photos of the broken antenna that was with my 1965 911 when I got it:

I can't guarantee it's the original antenna but it's definitely old enough to be original.

And here's a photo of the original re-chromed bezels on a new antenna (which is close but not exactly correct):

About the black versus metal top:

I think you get both. The antenna's designed to "lock" so that vandals can't damage it. It should come with two little keys:



To "lock" the antenna you push it all the way down into the base and to "unlock" the antenna you use the little key to pull the antenna back out.

But, the antenna comes with a little black cap to prevent it from going all the way into the base and "locking." Until you remove (or lose) the black cap you can pull the antenna up without the key.

[Michael Winters]

I have found these on the web.
Don't know if these are original or almost 99% original for a 1965/1966 car.
But looks a quite the same as the picture Jim posts on the yellow car
There are two different types of antenna.
I will post the link so you can see them.

Advice would be great.

Type 1:
http://www.stoddard.com/90164530100.html

Type 2:
http://www.stoddard.com/90164530101.html

[John Straub]

Type 2 looks close.

John

[Michael Winters]

John,

Thanks!
I suppose that the little chrome ring just under the plastic cone is a little bit less big?

[NeunElf]

The big difference I see is the black plastic "truncated cone" above the chromed bezels is taller on Number 2: Hirschmann Radio Antenna, Small Base, Black and Chrome for 911 912 up to 1977 which is what I'm used to seeing.

There aren't many period photos showing antennas. I do have a Porsche of America Brochure, "Go ahead. Drive It." The brochure's undated but those are clearly Model Year 1965 cars inside (you can see a scan at The Samba where it's called "1966 Porsche 911 Brochure"):

The resolution's barely adequate but they do show a black "truncated cone" above the chromed bezel on the antenna base so I think Number 2: Hirschmann Radio Antenna, Small Base, Black and Chrome for 911 912 up to 1977 is a better match (for just $235.01).

The Stoddard's descriptions imply the bases of their two antennas have different sizes but they don't give dimensions. You could always call them and ask what "large base" and "small base" really mean.

[John Straub]

Here's the original on my '65 with the black cap. Hope this helps.

John

[Michael Winters]

Could a Auta 2400 LS II of Hirschmann be correct for a 65/66 car?
Here a picture from someones pictures library.

[NeunElf]

Could a Auta 2400 LS II of Hirschmann be correct for a 65/66 car?
Here a picture from someones pictures library.

How correct do you need it to be? I can see two differences:

1) the "truncated cone" above the bezel on the old, broken antenna that came with my car is sort of convex, almost a truncated parabola:

The "truncated cone" above the bezel on the Auta 2400 LS II in your photo is straight-sided or maybe slightly concave.

2) the Auta 2400 LS II is a universal antenna and adjusts for the angle at which it penetrates the fender. The original antennas had a sort of a wedge.

But, once an Auta 2400 LS II's installed in your car it will be really hard to tell from an original. Finding a true, original Hirschmann antenna matching the part number and vintage of the ones installed at the Porsche factory will probably take a lot of money and luck.

I recall Victor Miles selling a really nice red tip Hirschmann antenna at the Phoenix Club a while back for just $ 950.