1220€ is aligned with the quote I got from mrfiat a year ago ($1500) as the dollar was much weaker back then.
This is very expensive but a pair of original sport seat recliners will be hard if not impossible to find.
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911E 1973 - Brownie- 66k original miles - Second owner
911E 1971 - gold metallic - sold and missed
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Yes I guess this is the market price today. Think it is really expensive, but also understand you need to make some investments before you can make these replica's. Will think about what I can do.
I would pay $800-1000 for sport seat recliners in a NY minute!
If you are going to use Deser recliners, you might as well just buy the whole seat from them. Which is why they price the recliners at the same price as a complete seat.
The tooling for these must have cost quite a bit.
David
'73 S Targa #0830 2.7 MFI rebuilt to RS specs
Hi David, thought about that as well, but than I have to buy two seats, since I need a left and right recliner. Or do you mean a later recaro seat that has two recliners per seat?
Just my opinion, but apart from the recliner mechanism, there is not much to a Sport seat, just a basic structure, which from what I see, Deser has reproduced exactly.
So, unless someone is going to carbon date the frame, what is the point?
I think the whole seats, completely upholstered are around $1600 each. Here it costs around $1k to upholster one seat.
I have never seen a Deser firsthand, but if they are as exact to original as they say, why not just buy a pair and save the headaches of cobbling together something not quite right.
After all, seats are a safety item, you don't want the thing falling a part in a crash.
David
'73 S Targa #0830 2.7 MFI rebuilt to RS specs
Yes, the Deser seats are very nice. Have sat in them and looked carefully at them for a couple of years now as a friend of mine sells them, and had them on his display at Essen when he had a booth a couple of years ago. The base price is good in vinyl, it goes up from there with leather. Tooling is VERY expensive on the recliner and the minimums are high to produce it. Tooling is also expensive on the foam, and again, the minimums are high. Believe they are offering the foam separately to a few restoration shops as it "is" available separately in the marketplace.
To do a 67 sport seat only is kind of up my alley as I have the sliders and tip brackets, but it's a very narrow market and I don't believe it would justify the up front expenses for the recliner, foam, frame. There probably wouldn't be much of a tooling charge on the frame as it's just a jig. But, I'm not going to do it.. too much $. Might make the recliners....I figure maybe $350 each retail if I do make them.
Hi David, fair point, safety comes first.
I have bought a set of '68 recaro sport seats with frames to swap with the '69 sport seats and tilt frames that I have now (with the previous owner of my S), all in an effort to make the car as original as possible. My car was delivered with these specific '69 seats, so that is why I really would like to bring them back to original and keep them with the car.
The d'Eser seats look really nice.
@Eric, if you were to make some recliners, I am sure Frank and I would buy a couple ;-)