FS: @Mecum - 1970 2.2L Sepia 911 S

[Macroni]

Lots of issues with this car if expected to bring top value. Too low, dash trim wrong, engine compartment body color instead of black, rockers body color instead of black, below dash body color instead of black, missing black trim around door edges, door pocket missing, wheels don't look properly finished...
And that is just from a few pics.
Good cars with good details still bring big $$$

Again I like the color...... so that is not an issue for me but certainly an influence on the buyers. I think this was a strong number for this car.... $160,000 + 16,000 commission= $176,000. This is big money.

[vtacarguy]

When a car doesn't sell or meet its reserve either at a major auction or on ebay... USUALLY the REAL money was much less...
Many times cars get bid up to try and catch a real bidder or under bidder who thinks they may have made a mistake by not bidding more.

[Macroni]

When a car doesn't sell or meet its reserve either at a major auction or on ebay... USUALLY the REAL money was much less...
Many times cars get bid up to try and catch a real bidder or under bidder who thinks they may have made a mistake by not bidding more.

Please explain in greater detail........ are we talking shill bids..... this was discussed elsewhere and I did not understand the concept......


explain "Catch a real bidder"

[DOUGS73E]

Previous posts . . .
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...l=1#post902899
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...l=1#post598993
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...l=1#post668026
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Mecum Auction Kissimmee, FL, January 6-15, 2017
1970 Porsche 2.2L 911S Coupe, Lot S247
VIN: 9110300331
Engine: 6300487
Trans: 7102950
Color: Sepia Brown (7474)/Russet(?)
Mileage: 22,263 (indicated)
Auction Estimate: US$175,000 - $225,000
Sold for: NO SALE (highest bid: US$160,000)

70S 1.jpg

[mfitton]

Please explain in greater detail........ are we talking shill bids..... this was discussed elsewhere and I did not understand the concept......


explain "Catch a real bidder"

Yes shill/house bids it up close to the known reserve trying to entice a real bidder to jump in and make the reserve so a sale takes place.

[Sepia911S]

The word sepia caught my attention and then I had to read this thread. When sepia brown is all shined up, it looks great; however, it can also look mundane and dull. The argument about the color will never end. What other colors create so much debate? Someday, when this very nice brown car is sold, I guess I will find out what the discount will be for the brown color. My thinking is the originality, the long history of ownership, the awards, and maybe the story will drive the price. Not many buyers are out there are looking for a brown Porsche, but some do value originality and history.

All the threads that include the word sepia are read!

And, I am a sucker for a magazine cover with a sepia Porsche on the cover.

And, I always look for brown cars everywhere.

[jimhuiz]

...What other colors create so much debate?

Sand Beige (ask me how I know ;-)

[tcsracing1]

Sand Beige (ask me how I know ;-)

im in the same boat.
I have two 1969 sand beige tubs....

[vtacarguy]

Yes... Auction houses sometimes (and ebay sellers) shill bid or bring the bid up close to the sellers bottom line or reserve and if a "REAL" bidder then places a bid a car will actually sell...


Btw.. In regards to this post, I am not saying Sepia cars are worth more or less than others... ANY Color and ANY auction house or ebay can have the same result

[Macroni]

Yes... Auction houses sometimes (and ebay sellers) shill bid or bring the bid up close to the sellers bottom line or reserve and if a "REAL" bidder then places a bid a car will actually sell...


Btw.. In regards to this post, I am not saying Sepia cars are worth more or less than others... ANY Color and ANY auction house or ebay can have the same result

I will only participate in no reserve scenarios otherwise it appears they are a waste of time......