Standard and Special Colors for late 64 until May 65 901/911 ?

[haul]

To bring this thread up again.

Today I had the lucky chance to find and buy a color chart, i did not know it existed.

According to Karim´s find in the Christophorus #53 / Sept 64 with the color change announcement for September 64, the

20M 9.64 356C color chart

- shown by Jim@#23 - seemed to be the list for ordering the 64/65 built 901/911/912/356 up to the 5.65 known list with the 66** color codings.

Today I found

15M 11.64 356C color chart

No differences in the two lists.

br
haul



btw:

All publications, print, online, whatever, world-wide, which do list 6412 BALI BLUE as a special color and 6405 CHAMPAGNE YELLOW as a standard color are definitely wrong

[HughH]

Yes the 6405 Champagne yellow as a standard colour and 6412 Bali Blue as a special colour was on the 6.63 paint chart. It appears that got swapped around for the 64 one Someone must have ben lazy or did not have the full infotrmation and carried the 63 one over to the 64 year in a book somewhere and i guess all the others used that as their source rather than going back to original documents. That is why the book that Karim is doing will be so valuable for those who worry about such things.

[Chris Romney]

FWIW, according to the Kardex, the original owner of #300838 the special order orange paint to sample 65 was Bennett Dorrance whose grandfather started Campbell Soup. Today Bennett owns 15% of Campbell Soup and is worth $2.4 billion. I guess that explains how he was able to buy such a highly optioned 911 when he was 19.

[1970rsr]

Correct Chris. I owned that car and just recently Sold it back to Bennett! He originally ordered the car when he was a college student. He is now fully restoring his old Porsche that he ordered new. Was super excited to get it back In his hands. It was extremely original. Never messed with. Thanks. T

[Chris Romney]

I have #302262 which is an early sunroof car painted silver metallic. It was delivered in Dusseldorf and the build date is listed as September 10 65. Based on some of the features of the car I believe it was completed prior to the summer break and then held back and painted with several other paint to sample silver metallic cars when they returned from break. If you have more pictures of Bennett's orange car it would be helpful to see what a similar Euro delivery car looked like. Thanks.

Chris

[davep]

Chris, unless they desperately needed a particular car in a special color, the usual practise would be to weld up the body, then paint, then trim, then Reutter would send the trimmed body to Porsche for drive train installation. 302262 is one of a group of perhaps 15 cars painted in special colors. I believe they bunched special colors since they required a lot of extra effort, especially in cleaning up for a color change in the paint shop.

[John Straub]

I'll stick with the '64 printed material.

John

[haul]

update

last week I found a 9.64 color chart and hoped for the already above mentioned M20 edition.
On arrival today i was absolutely irritated, as the coding for the chart is

3M 9.64

It took me some while to realize, that the chart has additional printings in Italian
f.i. „colori speciali con sovrapprezzo L 33.000“ - special paint with surcharge italian Lira 33.000.-

Are any further different country specific color charts known?

[r-mm]

Hello all

Reviving this informative old thread to ask if anyone knows if there was a distinction between the colors painted on the 'painted dash' early 1965 912 vs later 1965 cars? My instinct tells me the answer is no, the color was by year and the shift from painted to non painted dash was not viewed as a model change. Can anyone comment?

And...
If anyone wants to share a pretty picture of Enamel Blue / Sky Blue / Emailblau, please do! There are limited photos online, compared to almost every other 911/912 color.

[NeunElf]

Hello all

Reviving this informative old thread to ask if anyone knows if there was a distinction between the colors painted on the 'painted dash' early 1965 912 vs later 1965 cars? My instinct tells me the answer is no, the color was by year and the shift from painted to non painted dash was not viewed as a model change. Can anyone comment?

And...
If anyone wants to share a pretty picture of Enamel Blue / Sky Blue / Emailblau, please do! There are limited photos online, compared to almost every other 911/912 color.

There is a picture of a Sky Blue 356B T6 at Rennbow. It's also on Flickr.

The Rennbow text says Sky Blue was used in '64 and '65 so it's conceivable this 356B was misidentified. It also looks a bit lighter than the Sky Blue in the color chart you can download from Porsche Classic.

Some friends had a Sky Blue 356C cabriolet which I also recall as being a little darker than the 356B on Rennbow.