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    Remind me to never buy a vintage F1 car...

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    A wee bit over the top on drama there but point being you don't just push the button. Hard to believe 30 year old technology.

    So much for racing "clearances".


    Thanks for posting Peter.

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    Very cool, thanks for the link..

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    My favorite part was the use of the period laptop...
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    GREAT vid Peter.......

    I was at the Monterey Historics in 2006 when Zonta broke the outright (new track) record in the then new Toyota F1.... what'a sound...

    In the garage the complete pre-start and staring procedures were all done by very young people on laptops... The 'mature' crew chief just pointed when the buttons should be pushed........Me and a few other seniors in the crowd just looked at each other with mouths open..... ....I had NEVER seen anything like that before...

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    I've rebuilt and maintained several old Formula 1 cars from the 70s/80s in my Cosworth days.

    These older cars were much simpler to start, as most had Lucas mechanical fuel injection.
    When cold, the injection metering unit was set full rich, and the ignition was retarded with a dash switch. I would lean the metering unit gradually as it warmed up.

    This is a 74 McLaren, M23-8, that we ran for ten years.
    In its day, it won two Grands Prix- Mosport with Fittipaldi in 74, and Montjuďc (Spain) with Jochen Mass in 75.

    I'm on the left with the battery cart, waiting for our session to start at Laguna Seca, about 25 years ago.

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    With a Porsche transmission customer and his 904, also the early 90s at Laguna Seca.

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    A bit of fun...https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5BaR1Kc62Pk

    If it seems odd choice of "national anthem" for French Renault the team (chassis) is based in UK not far from Silverstone. Majority of other F1 teams are based nearby in so called the Motorsport Valley e.g. Mercedes team chassis plus HPP; RBR and Williams F1. At one time even the patriotic Scuderia Ferrari had a base in UK.

    Some folks here who know me personally are aware I've been fortunate for a decade and a half to be advisor to the owners/CEO of a well known F1 team and more recently had a group-wide director role there, but I never tire of hearing these older engines at start-up or at full chat.

    Keeping a historic F1 car collection working requires ingenuity from those running that part of the operation not just requiring using old computers but often making NLA components.

    A couple of years ago I took my late friend Chris (who since 1974 ran a well regarded Porsche independent specialist business) on personal tour of the F1 "factory". Because I worked there able to take him into places normally behind closed doors to general public. He was impressed by what it takes to design, build and run a couple of the recent generation F1 cars at GP race weekends. Starting and running these cars at the track is a tip of the huge development lifecycle iceberg.

    This video is a bit old now and at times it is quite superficial but gives some hint of what is involved to go F1 racing. As well as an example of the work some teams do beyond F1 core business for the mainstream automotive/ motorsport industry -- in this case some of the public domain work for Porsche Motorsport.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B0k3cOtSDm8

    Silverstone Classic later this month often brings out some nice old racers as did the recent FOS hillclimb at Goodwood House in Sussex.

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    Another photo of the McLaren, at my shop, with the airbox and rear wing removed.

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    Beautiful McLaren Jon........ I've seen it on the vintage circuit...

    It's 2 years too old for me to have seen in the day at Long Beach...
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