FS: @eBay - numbers matching 69S

[L.a.Brooks]

Auction seems to be getting legs.

Who knows if bidders are voyeurs here...

no seriously: Who knows if bidders are watching this thread?
If so it proves my mantra: All press is good press. Blunt, sarcastic, respectful banter is a wonderful thing. As a matter fact, I would encourage everyone to be more direct with comments in life. (Example: Instead of asking a person "Wow, are you losing weight?" Try "Hey, you're not nearly as fat as you used to be.")

The goal is to offer a veiled insult to throw them off balance. Best way I know of to vet someone.
Speaking of...

Luke may very well be the youngest curmudgeon on this site. I for one am looking forward to reading more of his cynical posts.

Being the one person who can answer that question, I will.
Yes, I just answered two more questions this morning from people who mentioned following this thread. Based on their questions I would be happy if either one ended up with the car and both stated that they will be bidding.

[Cliff]

My name is cliff, `an incomplete first name`
Was thrown off guard with this thread as both LA Brooks and `early air cooled` are in my opinion very respected, knowledgeable sellers. This thread seems to bear this out & the Ebay has already gone beyond the opening bid. Congratulations. This car is a fit for someone in this world

[earlyaircooled]

Thanks for your kind words Cliff. As I have always said when selling a car or anything for that matter you only need one buyer.

[earlyaircooled]

This is what a 69T can do imagine what a 69S can do? https://petrolicious.com/films/1969-...eid=a531608ddc

[Sunbeam47]

Truly amazing what matching numbers does for the value of these cars. I watched, as a lot of you did, the pretty yellow '70S Coupe on BaT recently and thought it was well bought at just over $100K considering it was nicely restored (not perfect) but was not a matching numbers car. The market really seems to put a huge premium on those numbers. I suppose this one can be a canvas for a spectacular restoration and justify the investment whereas non-matching number cars are merely for driving. Matching numbers = not messed with?

[Duisburg]

If it is a concours/mint original unmolested car .....I will agree with regards to numbers matching being worth the cost of admission. We all know that there are many matching number cars that have been messed with and I am sure there have been some that have been doctored.

I felt that the Yellow BAT car was a very nice car and well bought. A terrific driver and a car that should hold its value relatively well.

I feel that a 10-15% premium is deserved for a numbers matching vs a non numbers matching (w an appropriate era correct engine) ...but not much beyond that.

Regarding this particular car I am happy to see it doing well on Ebay. As LA Brooks mentioned earlier in this thread do not underestimate the USD weakness in relation to the Euro as of late. More European buyers are back in the market. They were a significant player in the run up of prices. I sold a few cars to overseas buyers a few years back (and a significant amount of the interest came from Germany, the Netherlands and Belgium)

[Frank Beck]

I feel that a 10-15% premium is deserved for a numbers matching vs a non numbers matching (w an appropriate era correct engine) ...but not much beyond that.

Most highbrow buyers would disagree. More like 20%+.
This topic has been discussed many times before.

[911TES]

It's not clear to me that the BAT S was a non-matching number. The COA said "not confirmed."
I'm not sure the owner provided the engine serial number in accordance with The new Porsche COA policy...and therefore got the "not confirmed" response. The engine looked correct, if not matching.
There are several matching numbers early 911S for sale around $120k

[L.a.Brooks]

It's not clear to me that the BAT S was a non-matching number. The COA said "not confirmed."
I'm not sure the owner provided the engine serial number in accordance with The new Porsche COA policy...and therefore got the "not confirmed" response. The engine looked correct, if not matching.

It was kind of buried in the BAT auction listing so I can understand how you may have missed it, but what they said:
"This 1971 Porsche 911S coupe ...Power comes from a correct but non-original 2.2-liter flat-six paired to a 5-speed manual gearbox."

Agree or not, the market is putting a big premium on numbers matching cars. While visiting several Porsche friends a couple months ago in Germany I was somewhat surprised that they too are now on the matching numbers bandwagon.

[goodtogo]

Truly amazing what matching numbers does for the value of these cars. I watched, as a lot of you did, the pretty yellow '70S Coupe on BaT recently and thought it was well bought at just over $100K considering it was nicely restored (not perfect) but was not a matching numbers car. The market really seems to put a huge premium on those numbers. I suppose this one can be a canvas for a spectacular restoration and justify the investment whereas non-matching number cars are merely for driving. Matching numbers = not messed with?

I was lucky enough to buy this car on BAT, its now on its way to Blighty. Seller was a real gent.

The problem with Porsche now only stating the engine serial number on the COA if you already know it (sense in that?) is that you can't now find what the original engine serial number was (no Kardex' post 1970 cars). Several '71s engines for sale at the moment makes it more frustrating, what if......