Nice photo. I wonder if it is a 68 SWB car though.
Decklid grill looks pre 68.5, no rubber on rear bumpers, vent windows in doors, lack of fender flares, etc. Door handles are 68-69 for sure...
Interesting puzzle to solve.
P.S. I think I see two decklid scripts, indicating it is a Sportomatic
Thanks, I added the details to each picture, I received the pictures from Ahrens race team.Originally Posted by StephenAcworth
911 1967S 308470
[B]911 1965 301946 Irish Green
[B]911 1965 302962 Polo Red
911 1965 300760 White SOLD
911 1971S S/T 2.5
914-6 1970 GT 2.3
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Beh911
I agree, I thought the same thing but being a test car made me question everything I saw. Too bad the torsion bar holes are out of the picture.
Does that look like a rear wiper in that photo?
911 1967S 308470
[B]911 1965 301946 Irish Green
[B]911 1965 302962 Polo Red
911 1965 300760 White SOLD
911 1971S S/T 2.5
914-6 1970 GT 2.3
Look for me at a track near you!
Early S Reg #2699
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Also, Ahrens Racing team existed in 1969. He didn't do F1 in 1970, when he received your car
From what I gather and further complicate it, He was using the car sometime in 1969 and given the car in 1970 from Porsche. I too thought about the transporter, but then thought it could have been used with that livery for many years after the 68 season? Too many variables it may or may not be the car in the picture. Either way I would like to hunt for more detailed shots. Someone must have some of
the Porsche paddock 1969-1970
Do you think it is possible to have two Kardex's? One that would have been internal use for testing and then another when the car was issued
to a customer? Seems odd to have zero info about the car on the Kardex no?
911 1967S 308470
[B]911 1965 301946 Irish Green
[B]911 1965 302962 Polo Red
911 1965 300760 White SOLD
911 1971S S/T 2.5
914-6 1970 GT 2.3
Look for me at a track near you!
Early S Reg #2699
https://www.facebook.com/#!/MachineMotorsports
Agree, also saw its a Sportomatic.
Cant imagine they switched the side windows of such a new car, and he anyway got a new one each year.
That silver is an earlier one, not a 69.
Great story and find however, of course.
Re Kardex, there was only one. When you read many Kardex, the history to who it was given was added, as was the eventual warranty repair. But possible they simplified the Kardex info when it was a internal Versuch, not detailing everything because no cliens order.
Registry member No.773
Mr Barth confirmed in a phone call today that 119300950 was delivered as described in the Kardex, i.e. NO options.
I have talked with Kurt Ahrens himself these evening and he confirmed that he used a silver 911S with *Stuttgart"-plates(registered for Porsche KG), while he drove some races for Porsche. He was no works-driver, but drove selected races for Porsche only, since he had to take care for his family and his company acc. to him.
He confirmed that 119300950 was NOT a test-car but a normal equipped 911, which was given first to a Mr. Lorz and his daughter for loan, then to him. In 1970 he was offered the 911S for purchase.
After he had quit racing at the end of 1970 he resold the 911 to one of his friends, since his daily driver was Mercedes 300SE-3.5.
Since he told me too that he used a 911 with Sportomatic and some realized that the photos show a 911 with Sportomatic, we should be aware of the fact that the one which he drove to the races could be another than that, which he bought in 1970 and quickly resold then.
If there will be further informations available, I will post it.
Cheers Wolf
Last edited by wgm; 11-14-2017 at 09:24 AM. Reason: supplement
Hi Wolf
The last paragraph is a bit confusing, are you saying that Mr Lorz received the car first or after Ahrens. I spoke with Ahrens son
only an hour ago and he said they believed it was a test car?
In regards to Sportmatic, Ahrens must be confusing the two cars as this is a 5 speed. Wolfgang
had told me earlier that Ahrens had mistaken the two cars earlier. So the hunt continues for a picture of this car.
Either way the Porsche plates information is new to me, thanks for sharing!
Wolf , I will have those pictures you requested this afternoon.
911 1967S 308470
[B]911 1965 301946 Irish Green
[B]911 1965 302962 Polo Red
911 1965 300760 White SOLD
911 1971S S/T 2.5
914-6 1970 GT 2.3
Look for me at a track near you!
Early S Reg #2699
https://www.facebook.com/#!/MachineMotorsports
Great stuff, You Guys! . . .
. . . just amazing
Where else could this kind of story + details come out?
Love our site
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We've seen sooo many pictures come out of the Faktory over the years
I'd be willing to bet that somewhere in Porsche's archives will be pictures of Mr Ahrens and any one of these cars . . . when the cars were presented + when he picked them up
Great stuff!
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