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    1972 911S found in the hills of Pennsylvania! An odd time capsule.

    Well as some of you know I recently acquired 9112301652 in the foot hills of PA. An on-line ad tipped me to it and I was on my way. I made a call to the owner to chat about the car and get some details before making the
    trek. I expected to hear about a messy car in need of everything at a too high asking price! What I heard was 3 owner, matching numbers ,Andial and RSR. After a few more pictures the deposit was sent and I was packing the truck. The following morning I was ready to make my 5 hour drive to PA. I have a soft spot for the state as I went to school there years back (Go Owls) I woke up to a winter advisory. Which is typical great lakes weather but projected snow of 12-14 inches in a 12 hour period!! Damn I thought...so I sat for another day looking over the 5 pictures I had, probing for more information. The former owner was very nice and helpful but not a Porsche nut. He bought the car in 98 from the 2nd owner and used it for a few DE's days with the PCA. Around 2004 the car sat dormant only getting the occasional drive around town. Fast forward to my drive, my wife made the trip to look at yet another "Cute car" as she puts it. I kid as she is very willing to make these trips whether to hunt cars or race. It's always nice to have a companion in the car that looks and does most things better than me. Arrived without issue in a small town just outside Pittsburgh, you know your getting close when all you see are black and yellow flags on each house! (Steeler fans for those who don't know)

    I was happy to step out of the car and into a well lit dry but very cold garage. More importantly the car was as nice as the pictures! The first thing I noticed was the Andial decal largely plastered on the ducktail. The same thoughts you are having now raced through my mind. I did see in the pictures sent earlier an Andial 10k tach. So I tried to put two and two together. No Andial serial number on the case and the more I looked I didn't see too much Andial related. What I did see was a largely stock and original car hidden under RSR body work with little to no rust. The only rust was on the hood caused by the hood pins!! Why anyone would need pins for a stock hood is beside me? To go along with the matching numbers was S brakes, Koni suspension, original sway bars etc. I was told over the phone that the car had factory "Posi" traction and and short gearing. So I slid under the car to see a 915/02 11 for LSD! I had noticed an odd MFI set up in the pictures so back to the engine bay. I saw what seems to be early stacks painted in Andial gold? From what I've been told this was a common 80's set up to "open" them for more flow, something you could not do with plastic. Lastly I almost forgot to verify all the serial numbers, so I went around and confirmed everything right down to the production number.

    I came up with the following and confirmed with Porsche:

    Vin 9112301652
    Engine 6322405
    trans (Not recorded) 915/02 11 7329904
    Production 102 7355 I think as it was hard to see behind the knee bar.
    Paint 325-9-1 Albert Blue

    I also received most of the original books, the car was purchased in Harrisburg PA ,then was sold to Ohio and lastly back to PA.

    So plans now are to convert back to narrow body, install proper bright work trim, mirror etc. Lastly install seats and get rid of some other incorrect details.
    I'm on the hunt for bumpers 15x6 wheels and period correct after market seats. I'll update here as I progress.


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    Great story!
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    I'm waiting for the options. What sport options were available in 72? The LSD option and lack of sunroof points to a more sport oriented car. I'm impatient and want to speculate
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    Wonderful story: thanks so much for posting!!!
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    I think you may want to do some more digging about the history of the chassis before returning it to stock ..I believe that
    is a replica of a Penske RSR that raced back in the seventies , may have been owned by one of the well known dealer/ racers from PA .
    I seem to recall that car for sale either on eBay or early reg back maybe ten years back , someone else here may remember more .
    That's at first blush , cool piece though for sure...Bert

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    Quote Originally Posted by budge96 View Post
    I think you may want to do some more digging about the history of the chassis before returning it to stock ..I believe that
    is a replica of a Penske RSR that raced back in the seventies , may have been owned by one of the well known dealer/ racers from PA .
    I seem to recall that car for sale either on eBay or early reg back maybe ten years back , someone else here may remember more .
    That's at first blush , cool piece though for sure...Bert
    I agree that car looks familiar to me as well- you might want to ping John at AIC to see if he knows anything about car, cool find. I bought a 70 E with a similar story many years ago.

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    Thanks Guys I do have a time line of ownership if that helps.

    Kilkenny III to 1985 ish
    Doug Garven 85-98
    Litter 98-17

    I believe Kilkenny was the original owner but I'm not certain. With the paperwork I have pictures of the Sunoco RSR and a note saying "looks familiar"
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    I would keep it as is and just drive it. A lot of people spend a lot of money to get where this car is.
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    That's a thought , maybe just clean up a few things and drive it.
    I already have the proper size wheels, add chrome trim and seats. A few suspension upgrades and it's a great outlaw S
    911 1972S 2.8 Race car SOLD
    911 1972T 2.5
    911 1965 300760 SOLD
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    914-6 1970 GT 2.5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm01 View Post
    I would keep it as is and just drive it. A lot of people spend a lot of money to get where this car is.
    +1
    Pretty cool car. Would be a lot of work and money to put back to stock. A lot of unoriginal parts and modifications but looks like it would be a load of fun on a winding road. More so than stock.
    Do you think your Motor is stock other than the mfi? Maybe it has more horses than you think it does.

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