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    A/C or not?

    I have a 2 owner (+ me) SWB 911 coupe that had A/C installed right from the dealer when new. (Yes it's stated on the original bill of sale.)
    While doing an unsympathetic restoration should I leave it or remove it? All original sheetmetal and no rust repair required but if I remove the system some holes will need to be repaired.

    Does the A/C hurt or help the value?
    I have no intentions of keeping this car so there's absolutely no personal preference at all.

    Thoughtful opinions are appreciated.

    Thanks.


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    Keep it, but don't sell to any one north of the mason-dixon line,,,,,they wouldn't get it
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    +1 for keeping it Frank. If it is on the original BOS, it's a nice feature. How unsympathetic are we talking here?

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    The car has been down for over 6 years. It started with just a respray then prices started going wonky and one thing led to another, and another, and another... Obviously I don't have any sympathy for it or myself.

    Looks like I'm out voted at this point. Thanks for input.


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    I would keep it and make sure it works. For me the AC would be a nice thing to have during our Oklahoma summers.

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    Frank,

    It is a testament to the timelessness of the 911 design that a pure SWB, to the modern eye, has a contemporary look, at least from the top side.

    Air conditioning components were industrial to begin with, and as such their design hasn't aged well.

    Funky York compressor the size and weight of a cinder block.

    Aeroquip field-replaceable fittings, before the days of crimp.

    That crazy orange braided hose, looking like a python curled up taking a nap on the warm engine.

    Condensers in weird locations.

    Evaporator that doesn't really work.

    Crude hole saw ports rimmed in rust.

    Funky vinyl air plenums that look like prototypes, because they basically were prototypes, compared to the production numbers of the later cars.

    These things stand out, offend the eye, disrupt the logical flow of "form follows function" that makes the 911 design harmonious.

    You might think these are arguments to dump them, but they are the opposite. They are arguments to KEEP them.

    Next time you go out for lunch take a look at what's on the road today. The combination of aerodynamic laws and globalization of design teams have made modern cars all look the same.

    They are efficient, they are safe. They are BORING.

    Where are the standouts that exemplify independent design values?

    My eyes are drawn not to the next three-box design but to originals from Paul Bracq, before Bangle ruined everything. Harm Lagaay, before the comeback.

    So where am I going with this? SAVE the stuff that makes the car look OLD.

    It funkifies the design, gives it a time reference that the perfect design lacks.

    And while you are at it put your smog pump back on.

    JFC
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    Quote Originally Posted by


    I have no intentions of keeping this car so there's absolutely [I
    no personal preference [/I]at all.



    Thanks.
    Unlike you frank to answer your own questions.

    Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Beck View Post
    Looks like I'm out voted at this point. Thanks for input.
    Frank are you feeling ok? I think you need a vacation.

    How can you be outvoted if you had no personal preference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 304065 View Post
    Frank,

    It is a testament to the timelessness of the 911 design that a pure SWB, to the modern eye, has a contemporary look, at least from the top side.

    Air conditioning components were industrial to begin with, and as such their design hasn't aged well.

    Funky York compressor the size and weight of a cinder block.

    Aeroquip field-replaceable fittings, before the days of crimp.

    That crazy orange braided hose, looking like a python curled up taking a nap on the warm engine.

    Condensers in weird locations.

    Evaporator that doesn't really work.

    Crude hole saw ports rimmed in rust.

    Funky vinyl air plenums that look like prototypes, because they basically were prototypes, compared to the production numbers of the later cars.

    These things stand out, offend the eye, disrupt the logical flow of "form follows function" that makes the 911 design harmonious.

    You might think these are arguments to dump them, but they are the opposite. They are arguments to KEEP them.

    Next time you go out for lunch take a look at what's on the road today. The combination of aerodynamic laws and globalization of design teams have made modern cars all look the same.

    They are efficient, they are safe. They are BORING.

    Where are the standouts that exemplify independent design values?

    My eyes are drawn not to the next three-box design but to originals from Paul Bracq, before Bangle ruined everything. Harm Lagaay, before the comeback.

    So where am I going with this? SAVE the stuff that makes the car look OLD.

    It funkifies the design, gives it a time reference that the perfect design lacks.

    And while you are at it put your smog pump back on.

    JFC
    Wow.

    Quite the commentary. I can't say I disagree at all. Rough hewn clunkiness is somewhat attractive; just ask my wife. (I'm glad she married for humor rather than good looks, money, stature, or intelligence.)


    Fortunately it's a 67 so no air pump.


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    Best laugh today!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by 304065 View Post
    And while you are at it put your smog pump back on.
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