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    911 Minus

    Always thinking about those early LWB Lightweights . . .

    . . . and, along with that --- how to make a 911 'lighter' . . . and I mean reeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaalllllllly lighter

    Didn't Gerard Larrousse get his TdF car down under 800kg?

    Anyway, came across this post . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TRE Cup View Post
    . . . no intimate (ha ha) knowledge of the 70 TdF car, but crewed in 2001 Tour Auto on an, er... interesting 71 TdF version that was purported to be accurate.

    Ok that b.s. aside , here is the list on how they achieved it

    1) no primer- the cars had color coat directly on bare metal. There was no seam sealers, no undercoatings, no fillers used. If it rusted, who cared! It was a weapon of racing, not a museum piece
    2) fiberglass lids, doors, bumpers- all 911R inspired / sourced. Front fenders were fiberglass with the ST flares.
    3) Rear fenders were steel as there either were no 'glass versions or they determined there was little advantage (and maybe the homologation papers did not have those approved)
    4) Door handles were 911R plastic (saved 4 lbs over 68 handles)
    5) no clock
    6) no drip tray on the underside of the roof
    7) no felt even on the underside of the roof
    8) plastic R rear windows, side windows in the doors
    9) Recaro sport race seats with fixed mountings (no sliders)
    10) Thinner hinges for the doors ("pinched")
    11) external light hinges for front and back lids
    12) R style lamps front and back
    13) Simple roll bar
    14) clock block off
    15) single external oil cooler passenger side fender

    I suppose they saved more weight by not installing the rocker panel heater tubes (as the rear entry points were blocked off), and no fan in the "fresh air" box . . .

    If you used a mag case engine and 901 trans in a 1970-71 shell, followed all the above, you will get a 1700 lb 911 (dry) . . .

    Most of these I recognize . . . except for 10) thinner hinges . . .

    . . . what's "pinched" mean





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    "Door handles were 911R plastic (saved 4 lbs over 68 handles)" - 4lbs! Really?!?
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