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    Xavier Petit-Jean-Boret Xavier PJB's Avatar
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    Question EVENT Registration Open : 2019 Challenge de la Route

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    EVENT REGISTRATION :https://www.classictribute.com/evenements

    Dear all,

    Since years I dream, we all dream about an European event for Early air-cooled Porsches, for us Sreg members and classic car fans.
    There were attempts some with success, others with less.
    There are many Carrera xxx or Targa yyy in the USA for Porsches and other brands.
    There is "Le Tour Auto", "Liege Rome Liege" etc.. dedicated to classics but for some with FIA or technical contraints.


    Important : I have now asked a professional event agency to help managing the logistics and event registration.
    https://www.classictribute.com/

    To be clear : I have acquired an event management business company (former name "l'étrier"), which is now called Classic Tribute.
    On top of my other businesses, I am personally supervising this event, and believe me my passion is in.

    Now it is time to make a road marathon made to early cars and our Porsche air cooled in Europe, our run.
    The principle is to drive 200 to 300 km per day through touristic roads (ban the motorways), 5 days, 5 fun trials.
    Doing a road marathon (marathon de la route) like for our precious, beloved and old cars, having fun, having technical assistance with us, mark the Porsche centers on the trip, get some cool but nice hotels (and evenings) etc.

    This is the "Challenge de la route", and it will happen every year, among other events.

    Starting points, go by points, destination per day. Easy road book. No rush, rough timeline,.
    Encouraging team/écurie designs etc...


    The event is opened to other participants outside of the ESR, but same rules apply.


    Dates: May 28th morning to June 1st evening
    Challenge de la route : 5 days, 5 drives, 5 trials - 1000km

    This is now full inclusive (Hotel, breakfast, lunch, diner, activities).

    Journey (final):
    May 28, 2019 - Stage 1: Versailles -> Le MansA little drive
    Nice lunch together at Le Mans.
    An activity to digest, a test to wake up (Trial 1).
    Dinner and bedtime at Le Mans


    May 29, 2019 - Stage 2 - Le Mans -> La Baule
    A little drive to reaching La Baule.
    Light lunch (better) for the following activities.
    We will see if you have nice leftovers for Trial 2.


    May 30, 2019 - Stage 3 - La Baule -> Villandry
    A few nice kilometers to reach Villandry.
    A bucolic meal is waiting for us but it will be worth it through trial 3.
    Visit of the castle and its magnificent park.
    Dodo.


    31st May 2019 - Stage 4 - Villandry -> Magny-Cours
    2nd, 3rd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 3rd, 2nd, we move to join the lunch break.
    Hello? Here's Manet.
    Compulsory team work for trial 4.
    Dinner at the hotel, and if it's hot: swimming at will.


    1st June 2019 - Stage 5 - Magny-Cours -> Versailles
    A short drive to recall memories.
    A lunch, well settled, wondering what will be the last trial.
    Surprise for the trial 5.
    Free walk around in the alleys of the castle park.
    Closing evening and awards ceremony.

    Accommodations / Expenses (one car on driver - co-driver on top)
    Fees will include :
    Roadbook, rallye plate, stickers, goodies, good fun and more.
    Hotel twin room - from May28th evening to June 1st morning (5 nights) including breakfast
    Lunch and diner
    All Museum tickets for one person -
    additional on top
    All activities

    No included in fee (pay as you go):

    Petrol, tools, tea time, extras, local goodies, repairs...
    Car shipment.


    Car Entry :

    - All road legal / road registered Porsche Air Cooled engined up to 1989/ G model chassis
    - Backdate and Tribute cars using up to G-model chassis.
    - Hotrods allowed but must be equipped with Porsche air-cooled engine up to G-model chassis.
    - Other classic cars may join.

    Navigation :
    - A single driver with a GPS using European maps is ok - Co-driver on board could be a good idea.
    - Navigator not needed. road book instructions are gonna be easy to read.


    Rules/Regulations :
    - For Schengen citizens : just make sure you have a valid car insurance covering European countries
    - For European NON Schengen : Contact the local French Embassy and make sure you do/don't need an international driving licence (free in France) -
    just make sure you have a valid car insurance covering the European countries
    - NON European citizen :
    Contact the local French Embassy and make sure you do/don't need an international driving licence for driving in Europe (free in France) - just make sure you have a valid car insurance covering the European countries
    List of countries to be communicated later - should be Schengen countries.

    Shipping/Other :
    - As far as I know, renting an eligible car locally to go and run is very very difficult and expensive.
    - For our non European fellows - either you have a local friend here who may lend his/her car to you, or you have a local friend here whom participate in and you are a co-driver/navigator, or you ship your car in and back. Last option needs investigation, please pm me for more details. Shipping a car from the USA should the around 1000USD return + insurance (likely 3%) - shipping company is your own choice, happy to be the local contact point in France.

    - It usually takes 2 weeks oversea transportation which you have to add paperwork, going to the port etc..

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    Xavier can you provide links infos to the events you organized to get more feeling what/how it could be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uai View Post
    Xavier can you provide links infos to the events you organized to get more feeling what/how it could be?
    Hi Uli my pleasure, I guess you know one of the events (not listed here) as you were part of the organisation team with Massimo and I, remember ?
    So you would expect more or less the same mood.

    You may find the 2017 events I organised for the Porsche Club Spyder-Speedster (which I founded) on the official website (www.spyder-speedster-porscheclub.fr) - you may see the picture on the web page with all the Spyders/speedsters aligned at Mulhouse Museum.
    The Carrera Schwarzwald 2017 was a new roadbook, not the one you did for the Sreg event.

    The Pink Panther tour 2016 link is here: http://www.agence-etrier.com/pink-panther-2016

    However the purpose here is not to judge how am doing things, it is more to emulate and create that crazy event dedicated to early Porsches.

    Seeking thoughts/ideas, to jauge if it worth to set it up or not.

    All the best.
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    Few photos made for several of these events and more.
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    could you expand on shipping to Europe and return? Cost, issues, papers needed, etc?

    My Inspiration

    '86 44 Turbo, black/red,7's and 8's fuchs, autothority - sold (rocketship)
    '97 Boxster, first delivered in DC Metro, silver/red -sold (huge mistake to buy this one)
    '99 C2, silver/black, RoW M030, limited lip, short shift - sold (good ride, but...)

    '69 912, 3.2 with all the trimmings
    (finally got air cooled)
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    David,

    I would need to investigate, or if anybody can share experience.
    However, there should be any issues shipping a car to Europe and return.
    I would say the 2 main points are the car insurance coverage and the storage of the car on destination/way back.

    I'll get back to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidRS View Post
    could you expand on shipping to Europe and return? Cost, issues, papers needed, etc?
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    Post #1 updated.
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    Post #1 updated
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    Quote Originally Posted by brakekiller View Post
    David,

    I would need to investigate, or if anybody can share experience.
    However, there should be any issues shipping a car to Europe and return.
    I would say the 2 main points are the car insurance coverage and the storage of the car on destination/way back.

    I'll get back to you.
    Thank you. The reason I ask is I have heard (not through personal experience) that getting a car into Europe is not a particular issue, but getting it back into the US is. Wanted to understand what is needed, how long it takes, etc.

    My Inspiration

    '86 44 Turbo, black/red,7's and 8's fuchs, autothority - sold (rocketship)
    '97 Boxster, first delivered in DC Metro, silver/red -sold (huge mistake to buy this one)
    '99 C2, silver/black, RoW M030, limited lip, short shift - sold (good ride, but...)

    '69 912, 3.2 with all the trimmings
    (finally got air cooled)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidRS View Post
    Thank you. The reason I ask is I have heard (not through personal experience) that getting a car into Europe is not a particular issue, but getting it back into the US is. Wanted to understand what is needed, how long it takes, etc.
    David,
    I just talked to local 2 folks here who are used to import/export cars between Europe/USA, none raised any particular issues whatsoever.
    The point is to use a proper carrier. As I have written in #1, the shipping costs should be around 1000USD return, you may even combine the shipping with other pals here and reduce the costs by sharing a container.
    Shipping insurance would be key too and on top of the shipping price.
    Am not sure about time it gets, but seems to be around 2 weeks oversea travel - I guess you would need to add paperwork, brining the car to the port. Most of the shipping companies do bi-weekly transport.

    I will contact shipping companies to get more precise information such as what is needed for temporary shipping etc..
    Please read post #1 as I do update it often.

    Cheers
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