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    Spec Class for '64-'65 911s

    Interesting. Pretty darn cool! However I wonder what this is going to do to the value of these cars...

    https://petrolicious.com/articles/ea...ar-spec-racing

    John
    Last edited by John Straub; 06-06-2018 at 08:29 AM.
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    1967 911 #307347, bare-bones, some road wear, a little surface rust, and a few dents..., owned 8 years.
    1970 914/6GT, http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/68715183, (For Sale- ran the last three Rennsports)owned 30 years.


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    You could always race them before. Over in UK they have been racing them at Goodwood-- here's a link to an old, but excellent, video. And the latest Goodwood vids are similarly illustrative of "turning right to go left." Enjoy

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/C8OVIgZaTug" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
    1966 911 #304065 Irischgruen

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    John, what rock have you been under? lol

    There is a vast racing world that exists out there that has little to do with grass/shows or discussion about fasteners/details ad nauseam. This "new" series is just a spin on what has been going on for a very long time. Cool that it's getting press though.

    As far as values... I suspect they will continue to do what they've always done.

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    Frank, I remember seeing and reading about this several years ago in the Brit magazines. It looks like now they are taking it to different tracks. Not sure if they did that back then or it was only Goodwood. And they do drive the heck out of them!

    I remember selling Solex carb sets to guys over there. They were snapping them up.

    I agree, as far as values... And I think this will continue to push them.

    John
    Last edited by John Straub; 06-06-2018 at 08:29 AM.
    1965 911 #301111, Red Book Vol 1 "Cover Car," owned 48 years.
    1967 911 #307347, bare-bones, some road wear, a little surface rust, and a few dents..., owned 8 years.
    1970 914/6GT, http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/68715183, (For Sale- ran the last three Rennsports)owned 30 years.


    Photography Site: JohnStraubImageWorks.com

    Pushin' back the hands of time, "Along For The Ride" at, http://www.johnstraub.blogspot.com

    Registry #983
    R Gruppe #741

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    Klub Sport Challenge, too bad its long gone.

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    SWB Porsche 911s which meet FIA Appendix K Requirements have been raced throughout Europe for many years. Cars have to comply with Homologation Form 183 and Appendix J of the Period. They typically race in the GTS category of Period F.

    The Peter Auto 2.0L Cup is a series of three races which is only open to 911s which have an HTP and meet the above regulations and is limited to 40 cars.

    In 2019 the number of races will possibly increase to five.

    I don't think many 'new' cars have been prepared but the value of 'ready to go' Racers will probably increase and difficult to find parts will almost certainly increase in value.

    I am not sure there will be much impact on the value of original 1965 cars as once these cars have been modified to a Race Spec they will be too expensive to put back to their original condition.

    The comments in the article with regard to spending being under control because ot is a 'one make' series needs to be judged against a background where successful cars can change hands for around $350K if not more.

    The leading contenders are building engines to rev to around 9000rpm costing at least $70k.

    Entry fees for the three race series is almost $8000 and I would expect that the leading cars engines are stripped and overhauled after every race.

    We are just starting to prepare a shell for the 2019 Season and have just completed all of the jig work and panel fit.

    We will start building the motor later in the year but don't expect to be competitive for the first couple of years and we are sure it will be really hard work to be halfway up the grid which is our initial objective.

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    Cool, Chris!

    John
    1965 911 #301111, Red Book Vol 1 "Cover Car," owned 48 years.
    1967 911 #307347, bare-bones, some road wear, a little surface rust, and a few dents..., owned 8 years.
    1970 914/6GT, http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/68715183, (For Sale- ran the last three Rennsports)owned 30 years.


    Photography Site: JohnStraubImageWorks.com

    Pushin' back the hands of time, "Along For The Ride" at, http://www.johnstraub.blogspot.com

    Registry #983
    R Gruppe #741

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris_seven View Post

    The leading contenders are building engines to rev to around 9000rpm costing at least $70k.

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    We will start building the motor later in the year but don't expect to be competitive for the first couple of years and we are sure it will be really hard work to be halfway up the grid which is our initial objective.
    Chris,

    What is the "State of the Art" there-- I assume you must use Solex carburetors- are you allowed to use 906 cams? Presumably if you are turning 9000 RPM you have lightened the reciprocating mass significantly.

    What are some of the TYPES of modifications being done by the front-runners? I am not asking you for SECRETS merely the general areas for improvement that might be interesting to those of us watching from across the pond.
    1966 911 #304065 Irischgruen

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