Ultimate Paint Details Summary Thread for an early 67S

[911scfanatic]

Any differences from what you've described and a US '68? I'm getting very close to paint.

[Adore911]

Any differences from what you've described and a US '68? I'm getting very close to paint.

The black under the engine grill seems to be something which disappeared towards the end of model 1967.
There was a statement about black satin in the fuel filler area for a model 1968.
The 1968 has also another wish washer bottle, so that area will differ.
There will probably be other differences you will find in the haystack.

[Adore911]

Going further to the inner front fender area.

Also here a three step approach can be maintained:

1. Underseal is applied from the front of the car up to the fender joining panels. Following areas are masked:

• the area where the front bumper brackets will be screwed to the chassis (by nature, when the car is on a rotisserie)
• the area where the fender will be screwed to the chassis (strip under the hood and on the fender joining panels)
• often the 2 louvered ventilation holes in the right inner front fender (Webasto) are masked
• the area near the door hinge (A-pillar)

2. Body colour is applied

• on the areas where the fender wil be screwed to the chassis and
• on the area near the door hinge (A-pillar)

Some overspray on the underseal can be noted

3. Black satin is applied

• over the underseal
• over the area where the front bumper brackets will be screwed to the chassis (nearing the frontiers, there is often only black paint, no underseal)
• over the 2 louvered ventilation holes in the right inner front fender (Webasto)

[Adore911]

not not true for most 305xxxS cars i have seen.

do we know the with of the tape? i measured it for a projejt but i don`t remember...20mm?

Hi Moito (Franz),

Your 305xxxS intrigues me.

If you compare that specific car with the findings/pictures I added in recent posts, do you see any other differences?

E.g. masking in the luggage compartment?
E.g. line outside on the rocker panels?
E.g. masking on the inner front fenders?

Many thanks for your contributions.

Kr,

Erwin

[moito]

Hi Moito (Franz),

Your 305xxxS intrigues me.

If you compare that specific car with the findings/pictures I added in recent posts, do you see any other differences?

E.g. masking in the luggage compartment?
E.g. line outside on the rocker panels?
E.g. masking on the inner front fenders?

Many thanks for your contributions.

Kr,

Erwin

took some pics when i inspected it at my customers place...will go through those pics when i find time.
will have this car in house next year for a soft restoration...

meanwhile take this

[Jim Morris]

This is a terrific service Erwin is providing to the community, and I am greatly impressed by his attention to detail and the effort he is taking to document the original, authentic, material applications for 1967 Porsche. Thank you, Erwin (Adore 911). At the same time I would not understand why, today, someone who has stripped the car to bare metal would not use epoxy primer (sealer) over everything before spraying sanding primer, undercoating, color, etc., with or without masking as documented. I want to be clear that I have absolutely no quibble with the detective work results Erwin has provided us about what the factory actually did. But the factory did not have, in 1967, a durable, waterproof, super adhesive material like the epoxy primer we have today. What I'm trying to express here without in any way diminishing Erwin's processes (which I will no doubt follow in my next 1967 restoration), is that in spite of what the factory did against the bare metal, if we use epoxy now we will be able to much better preserve our work for the next generation, and avoid some of the corrosion problems we now have to repair resulting from the "old school ways" available in the 1960's. Besides, no one can possibly know there is epoxy under there.

[Adore911]

Hi Jim,

Many thanks for your appreciation! For myself and for others, I wanted to have a summary for an entire car.

At some places, I remarked that -contrary to the factory- I will start with a layer of 2k epoxy.

This is how the car moved to the painter, with a layer of PPG SigmaCover 280 according to ISO 9001.



I will probably make a thread on the restoration later.

Kind Regards,

Erwin

[Adore911]

Why didn't you remove the headlight "tabs" from the 1968 style fenders? Did you widen the fender lips at the top to match the early cars, or did you leave it like the 68 type fender?

Hi Erik,

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We also changed the fuel filler area on these new Porsche SWB front fenders.

Will provide pictures in a dedicated restoration thread to avoid going off topic.

Kr,

Erwin

[bob joyce]

Erwin … just want to say I very much appreciate what you are doing.... best of luck

[Adore911]

Did you widen the fender lips at the top to match the early cars, or did you leave it like the 68 type fender?

The fender lips on the new SWB Porsche fender were constant at 15 mm. So they were not the wide type (23 mm), nor the tapered ‘68 type.