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    Tesla at Laguna Seca.

    it's fast enough but is it as fun as a screaming gas engine?
    Soon Laguna can host 20 db sound limited track days lol

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    Hey Mikey...
    Just for comparison, what do you turn in your GT-1/TransAm car at Laguna ?

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    Merry Christmas CM
    I'm a mid pack historic racer, 1.34 in the 10 car.
    Hopefully better in May with the 5.
    At Laguna Seca a fast 962 1.25, fast GTO car 1.29.

    I guess for now the electric cars get hot after a lap or two.
    a link EV Track mod forums.
    https://trackmustangsonline.com/foru...las-online.62/

    If your a nanny fan consider the ultimate track car computer.
    http://selfracingcars.com/

    This video is the antidote for all of the above, gas engine/no nanny.

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    Speaking of Daytona Classic 24...

    Typical game of leapfrog. My poor 2.5 gives it up to Yves' 3.0 every single lap. This went on for 30 min.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLfktdGPBwM

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    Typical game of leapfrog. My poor 2.5 gives it up to Yves' 3.0 every single lap. This went on for 30 min.
    WOW !!!

    Great vid Frank..... You had'm covered in all the small stuff and most of the big stuff.... Heads-up driving!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Beck View Post
    Speaking of Daytona Classic 24...
    This went on for 30 min.
    great drive Frank!
    big tracks suit you.

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    Some details about the speedy Tesla, it had R Gruppe style mods.
    copy/paste

    According to author, it was tested previously on East Coast track 1.5 miles, and was able to do 3-4 laps in a row at full power, so about 4.5-6 miles on full power.
    That means 2-3 laps of Laguna Seca which is I think 2.25 miles long?


    Model S is unable to do 1 full power lap of Laguna, so Model 3 has made forward stride.

    This Model 3 had 275 Hoosier A7s, coilovers, and reprogrammed ECU..so not stock tune.
    It had brakes upgraded.
    It was lightened I am sure.
    Typical time-attack or track-day mods.


    The energy consumption is 6x more than normal driving, according to the test. So if it has 300 mile range typically, on track is has 50 mile range.
    Issue is there are no EV chargers at Laguna or any tracks..
    So you have to trail it full to track, and than you can do some laps and take it home on trailer, or to Monterey nearby where there is a supercharger.


    To some extent, we have to admit, even factory performance cars like Z06, Mustang GT PP2, and every other car we can think of (Bmw M1/2/3/4/+), EXCEPT Porsche, will likely starts having issue on track if driven "off the showroom floor" to track and driven 3+laps at full tilt.

    Its actually a shame that these factory performance cars that are sold as "track-worthy", to boil their fluids and fade brakes, and some even ruin mechanical parts.
    More shame, than Tesla Model 3 only being able to do 2-3 laps, because its emerging technology (Electric performance vehicle).


    Thing is heavy car like Model 3 is not suitable for track and its pointless to demonstrate its track-worthyness when its 4xxx pounds heavy car, Model S is over 5000 pounds: that is a truck or heavy sedan.
    Model 3 and Model S are road cars, and I think Tesla's "track-mode" etc is truly a poorly packaged marketing ploy that is appealing to those who are ignorant of reality of track-driving, - majority of people - it appeals to their manliness same as buying Lamborghini yet driving it in 1st gear in town and back to garage feeling like the car's ability is somehow your own ability: its not.

    But Model 3 has been tested at something like 8.5 seconds 0-100mph, so now what car can come close to that, which does 1.41 on Hoosier A7s at Laguna?
    NONE. Spec Boxster can crank a 1.41 at Laguna and its acceleration is likely no better than 16+ seconds 0-100mph...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gburner View Post
    Some details about the speedy Tesla, it had R Gruppe style mods.
    copy/paste

    According to author, it was tested previously on East Coast track 1.5 miles, and was able to do 3-4 laps in a row at full power, so about 4.5-6 miles on full power.
    That means 2-3 laps of Laguna Seca which is I think 2.25 miles long?


    Model S is unable to do 1 full power lap of Laguna, so Model 3 has made forward stride.

    This Model 3 had 275 Hoosier A7s, coilovers, and reprogrammed ECU..so not stock tune.
    It had brakes upgraded.
    It was lightened I am sure.
    Typical time-attack or track-day mods.


    The energy consumption is 6x more than normal driving, according to the test. So if it has 300 mile range typically, on track is has 50 mile range.
    Issue is there are no EV chargers at Laguna or any tracks..
    So you have to trail it full to track, and than you can do some laps and take it home on trailer, or to Monterey nearby where there is a supercharger.


    To some extent, we have to admit, even factory performance cars like Z06, Mustang GT PP2, and every other car we can think of (Bmw M1/2/3/4/+), EXCEPT Porsche, will likely starts having issue on track if driven "off the showroom floor" to track and driven 3+laps at full tilt.

    Its actually a shame that these factory performance cars that are sold as "track-worthy", to boil their fluids and fade brakes, and some even ruin mechanical parts.
    More shame, than Tesla Model 3 only being able to do 2-3 laps, because its emerging technology (Electric performance vehicle).


    Thing is heavy car like Model 3 is not suitable for track and its pointless to demonstrate its track-worthyness when its 4xxx pounds heavy car, Model S is over 5000 pounds: that is a truck or heavy sedan.
    Model 3 and Model S are road cars, and I think Tesla's "track-mode" etc is truly a poorly packaged marketing ploy that is appealing to those who are ignorant of reality of track-driving, - majority of people - it appeals to their manliness same as buying Lamborghini yet driving it in 1st gear in town and back to garage feeling like the car's ability is somehow your own ability: its not.

    But Model 3 has been tested at something like 8.5 seconds 0-100mph, so now what car can come close to that, which does 1.41 on Hoosier A7s at Laguna?
    NONE. Spec Boxster can crank a 1.41 at Laguna and its acceleration is likely no better than 16+ seconds 0-100mph...
    The Tesla is worthless as a track car. Also, plenty of those other cars you mention are quite capable of running extended track sessions. We have run a Laguna Seca Boss 302, a 1LE Camaro, a Grand Sport Corvette and even a wide body Hellcat Challenger for far more than a couple laps with no issue other than tires. Porsche is not the only car capable of this. Actually, some recent Porsche models have experienced temp issues and PDK issues after relatively short track sessions.
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