FS: 67 911 Coupe Light Ivory/Black

[Frank Beck]

Trolling.

I learned long ago that selling a restoration before it's completed is usually foolish but testing the waters here. I would have posted in General but I'm confident that I would be accused of having an auction or at best a veiled "For Sale" ad.

One of the reasons that I'm considering offering prior to completion is my quandary on the A/C. It was installed at the dealer in TX when the car was sold new. (On the original purchase agreement.) An eventual buyer may not want it therefore it would be a shame to go through the trouble and expense of reinstalling all of the equipment, then pulling it back off.

This car was purchased new by a doctor in Tyler, Texas. He bounced around TX, CA, and ended up in AZ. Our shop first started servicing it in mid to late 90's. I bought the car from the doc about 16 years ago, drove it maybe 200 miles then sold it to a friend in 2006. He put less than 500 miles on it then I bought it back about 9 years ago. I would be shocked if it's had more than a thousand miles put on it in the last 20 years. Documentation reflects the mileage as being original (Approx 80k.) I was going to leave it alone but as prices began to skyrocket I decided a soft restoration was in order.

Body never rusted, whacked, or showing evidence of trauma of any kind. Painted with Light Ivory Glasurit single stage about 4 years ago (original color), suspension powder coated/plated, rebuilt, bone stock matching number 2.0. Original black vinyl interior is very nice. And yes; the signal lights are NOS. Nothing has been shortchanged. Pretty much just needs assembly. I can also offer a few different options including: '67 sport seats, Fuchs, 128's, and of course a badas motor.

Since this is in the For Sale section and I have to put some kind of price on it... let's say 125k outright purchase now plus a "not to exceed" balance once finished? Again, main reason I would do this is because I have this reoccurring dream that A/C reinstall now may be a complete waste of time.

I welcome thoughts, criticism, and commentary. Especially on the A/C.


Thanks.

[Frank Beck]

Duane was certainly a big fan of cold air. I do miss him.


Thanks Eric. Your opinion certainly carries a lot of weight.

[nvr2mny]

Would it happen to be an Delanair system? If kept in the car (which btw, I agree w/Eric) I ‘assume’ you’d upgrade the lines and condenser? I have a ‘68 912 SWT that the orig buyer had the dealer install A/C at a cost of 800.00 dang near 15+% of the car just for that. Your ‘67 looks nice and I think you’re on the right track.

[joegt3cup]

I say go with the AC especially give the fact that its documented. If someone sees it as a negative then this isn't the car for them.

[mike66]

I get Eric's point and a (working) AC can be a great thing in hot countries but.... did one of you ever see and niceand clean dealer-installed AC system? From a mechanical/aesthetic standpoint I don't like this after-market stuff: ugly holes with sharp edges all over the body, floppy but brittle rubber lines and make-shift stuff in almost every corner of the car. And - after 40 years of neglection and us trying to get it running again - do they really work? Of course not. I take dealer-installed or after-market AC's out of every car I lay my hands on. Not because Dr. Porsche didn't install the system at the holy factory itself, no, because most just don't look right or have been installed by a guy who really didn't like cars but had a big desire to drill holes....

[Frank Beck]

I get Eric's point and a (working) AC can be a great thing in hot countries but.... did one of you ever see and niceand clean dealer-installed AC system? From a mechanical/aesthetic standpoint I don't like this after-market stuff: ugly holes with sharp edges all over the body, floppy but brittle rubber lines and make-shift stuff in almost every corner of the car. And - after 40 years of neglection and us trying to get it running again - do they really work? Of course not. I take dealer-installed or after-market AC's out of every car I lay my hands on. Not because Dr. Porsche didn't install the system at the holy factory itself, no, because most just don't look right or have been installed by a guy who really didn't like cars but had a big desire to drill holes....

Phoenix ain't Zurich.

Customer dropping off their car for service: "My brakes are horrible and I almost crashed! And my A/C stopped blowing cold. I understand if you don't have time; the brakes can wait."



Mike, you obviously have absolutely no concept of what hot weather is. Most people in our region refuse to drive a car without A/C in the summer months. (That's mid April-late Sep around here.)
Yes, A/C can work in an early 911. (Very well in 100+ degree temps I might add) I can assure the eventual owner of this car that it will have:

1. No holes that look like they were made with a fire ax.
2. All new barrier hose.
3. Original left front A/C condenser with twin Spal cooling fans.
4. Either a mini rotary compressor or a 6" York piston compressor. (Both work well and don't load the engine too much.)


A/C is one of our staples and I know it exceptionally well. I can promise that the system in this car will kick as.



Yes Doug, it's a Delanaire system.

[Rick Cabell]

Yes, super hot in AZ, and I am sure Frank can keep a 911 cool inside. Fortunately it's dry heat, mix in humidity and you would have a challenge. I guess if you leave the AC out, then the car will never get driven. Most aftermarket air in 356's and early 911's looks as it was installed in a gas station with a Craftsman 12 piece tool kit.
I think your post is valid. If you leave it out, the buyer will want it. Put it in, the buyer will want it out. Ask me how I know.

[Frank Beck]

If you leave it out, the buyer will want it. Put it in, the buyer will want it out. Ask me how I know.

Exactly Rick! Been there myself.

[Dg567]

Better to have and not need it, than not have it at all.

[Rick Cabell]

When you think early Porsche AC, all I can think of is the standard upright piston massive York compressor.