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[BULLITT65]

Hello all.

I am new to forum but have an interest in early 911's. A little background on me: I grew up in the Bay Area (huge Giants fan), restored a 65 mustang fastback as my first car in the 90's and since then have collected 60's Chevelles, Camaros, more mustangs, an impala, and some motorcycles. I have been into cars since I was young with Hot Wheels, and tootsie toys. While I have a special appreciation for the muscle cars, that I grew up around. I am in general, a classic car enthusiast, and love many German and Italian designed cars.

Porsche has always produced very attractive cars, and it is the late 60's early 70's 911 body style that I am drawn to. So while my muscle cars have crept up in value I have noticed a draw also from the early 911. I realize the 911 pulls the same value as my 69 Camaro, but I am not sure if it is going to provide the same pull or " excitement" that my 69 Camaro has. I love the looks of the 911, but if it can't pull hard, I may be disappointed. I grew up with my mom having a 67 Austin Healy 3000 (BJ8) and I am familiar with the car alright, it goes Ok for what it is (6cy with dual SU carbs- factory 150hp. curb weight 2548 lbs.) She still has it and I keep it in tune when I visit her. I am not sure if a 140hp (T) 165hp (E) or 190hp (S) is going to match the looks of the car enough to keep me satisfied with the car.
I love the look of this car that was recently on BAT:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...ign=2019-03-12

I think guys got caught up in the excitement and it went for 78k plus buyers fees would put it at 86k. A bit much for just a entry level 911 T.

I would like to get some feedback from you guys. I realize many of us muscle car guys come off as unrefined red neck peasants, but I have to start somewhere.

Is the late 60's/early 70's 911, just a glorified VW bug motor in a classy body?

[Bullethead]

I realize the 911 pulls the same value as my 69 Camaro, but I am not sure if it is going to provide the same pull or " excitement" that my 69 Camaro has. I love the looks of the 911, but if it can't pull hard, I may be disappointed.

Pull? Pulls? Can't pull hard?

I would like to get some feedback from you guys. I realize many of us muscle car guys come off as unrefined red neck peasants, but I have to start somewhere.

Is the late 60's/early 70's 911, just a glorified VW bug motor in a classy body?

Well, of course. Everyone knows that.

[Ralph911T]

How many VW's have won at Le-mans? You might want to do a little more research.

[BULLITT65]

How many VW's have won at Le-mans? You might want to do a little more research.

We are talking street cars here. If I say I own a 69 Camaro, that doesn't mean I own Mark Donahue's 69 Z/28 that won the trans am series. Yes I realize the Porsche motor is better built than the VW and has more Hp, but the basic design is similar, is my point. Unless you're trying to tell me it was stock 911 that won Le mans?
(no dash in Le Mans I believe)

[Jim Breazeale]

We are talking street cars here. If I say I own a 69 Camaro, that doesn't mean I own Mark Donahue's 69 Z/28 that won the trans am series. Yes I realize the Porsche motor is better built than the VW and has more Hp, but the basic design is similar, is my point. Unless you're trying to tell me it was stock 911 that won Le mans?
(no dash in Le Mans I believe)

There isn’t a part (other than fasteners)
That interchange with VWs in a Porsche (911) motor.

Jim
PS: your inner redneck mentality is showing through��������. I’m one of you, too.

[BULLITT65]

I understand. I was referring to an air cooled rear motor.

How about shifting Jim? how is it for the 911 shifting while negotiating the turns? quick or do you have to be patient dropping it into each gear?

[StephenAcworth]

Shifting is something that you need to learn with early 901 boxes... slow(ish) is better... maybe watch some in-car footage on YouTube of classic 911 racing and you'll get some idea. In my opinion, some level of mechanical sympathy helps with the shifting to get the best out of it... if you brutalize it it won't appreciate it at all... but they are immense fun to row through the gears on twisties... lightweight is key the the experience compared to US-barges...

[mac73s]

We are talking street cars here. If I say I own a 69 Camaro, that doesn't mean I own Mark Donahue's 69 Z/28 that won the trans am series. Yes I realize the Porsche motor is better built than the VW and has more Hp, but the basic design is similar, is my point. Unless you're trying to tell me it was stock 911 that won Le mans?
(no dash in Le Mans I believe)

With this logic a front-engine V-8 Ferrari is a front-engine V-8 Chevrolet...I think not.

[joegt3cup]

I once lived in your world owning everything from a stock 69 Z/28 (one of my favorites owning the same car twice) to a highly modified track car a 69 Nova SS396 with a ZLX 427 all great cars in period. Then in 1984 influenced by a very good friend I purchased a 1979 911SC after my 67 Corvette was stolen and never looked back. For me their are two factors that are most important, the look as you have to be attracted to it but most important is the driving experience which the Porsche has in spades. I sometimes look back and think how cool it would be to have one of those old muscle cars from my past today, that is until I recall the driving experience :O Go out and spend some time behind the wheel of a well sorted 911 and experience it for yourself. Forget about the weigh, horsepower, even the shifting etc... you may just be pleasantly surprised : )

"I'm not gonna try it—you try it!"... "Let's get Mikey"... "he hates everything"... "He likes it!"

[BULLITT65]

good story. I do enjoy my 4 speed muscle cars. I am deffiently open to the 911 and the different power plant and driving experience, (that's why I am here). I plan on keeping the 60's cars I already have, but would like to expand my horizon, and the 66-72 has always been a favorite. The more I look at them the more I lean towards the 70-72. Most of my other cars are numbers matching, so (ideally) I am trying to find a similar condition 911. Surprised the Targa seems to go for much less, when I would think they would have been more expensive back then