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    The US/Canada cost is $110 with a $10 deduction for PCA members. Regular shipping is $8.95 and expedited shipping is $39.95.
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    Maybe this will lead to the death of a substandard program, hopefully. The CofA was a joke that repeatedly had massive amounts of mistakes, BUT if it was incorrect they would correct it for you!! We have all seen gross errors passed off because of translation errors or whatever. I bought one for the very early 66 912 coupe in 2001 or 2002, was accurate for what it was, nice paper with Porsche crest. Bought the 71 911 Targa in about 06 and had no desire to get one, I do wish you could get a Kardex for this year, I do have the original service maintenance book with engine # in it. It is like a section of the public pushed this inferior "document" into some higher standard it never deserved, Yes one of my pet peeves.

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    This sucks. I was planning on getting an official COA but 500 euros is a LOT for just a document that confirms the engine number (hopefully)...
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    Just out of curiosity I looked up participating dealers. Not many of them. So if I lived in say Massachusetts, the closet participating dealer seems to be in Long Island NY or in New Jersey. So on top of my $500 I would have to bring my car three states away to get this done. Seems like a total PIA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry L View Post
    Maybe this will lead to the death of a substandard program, hopefully.
    That substandard program was still the only way to verify transmission and engine numbers on an otherwise undocumented car.

    I took the time to translate the above document from German (by way of Google Translate):

    With the Technical Certificate, Porsche Classic is offering for the first time a detailed documentation for all classics of the brand. "We give our customers guidance in order to be able to better assess the technical condition of their vehicle," explains Ulrike Lutz, Head of Porsche Classic at Porsche AG: "It does not replace vehicle registrations, but is a sensible addition to the vehicle documentation. Which contributes to the preservation of the value of the vehicle and the viability of the vehicle, and the extensive testing will reveal technical weaknesses. " The "Technical Certificate" is now available at one of the 18 Porsche Classic Partners in Germany.

    The certificate includes comprehensive documentation that allows the owners of a classic Porsche to compare the state of delivery of their current state-of-the-art vehicle. The "Historical Part" provides detailed information about the original condition of the vehicle. In addition to the production date and place of delivery, this also includes the order type and performance data. In addition, the engine and transmission numbers as well as the engine and transmission types contained in the vehicle are documented and compared with the original records. In addition, the documentation captures features such as exterior color and interior as well as the optional extras installed ex works. In the technical review are also the tests of body, exterior, interior, suspension and brakes on the checklist.

    The current technical condition of the vehicle is held by specialists of the Porsche Classic Partner in an individual assessment. For example, paint and upholstery are evaluated in terms of their wear in view stages. Cosmetic aspects do not matter. Test points that do not meet the requirements are noted in the technical check and can thus be specifically remedied. In the concluding "technical certificate" they are then without objection.

    The six-page document with eight photos and a technical check are available from the German Porsche Classic partners for 499 euros. A vehicle certificate does not replace the certificate.
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    Fortunately the situation is much better for the early cars. Through 1969 model year the Kardex can provide the majority of the available data. Through the 1964 model year the Reutter certificate does a superb job of documenting the body assembly & trim for 356 models. The production books can be queried, at a cost, if the real completion date is required or if the engine & transmission #'s need to be confirmed. There are some details an owner can find on their cars that are useful.
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    Davep, does your statement concerning the production books mean that this is a way to find information on later cars, and is it generally available to the public? Do you need to “know” someone at the factory?
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    Quote Originally Posted by V1 Rotate View Post
    Davep, does your statement concerning the production books mean that this is a way to find information on later cars, and is it generally available to the public? Do you need to “know” someone at the factory?
    Bill S
    Yes, please. Do tell. What options other than the PPS or CTC does the owner of a '71-73 have since no carded is available?
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    It's all very ironic given that up to the early 90's at least you could just write to Porsche and they would write back with the information. As one of the previous owners of my car did. And they responded in one day. And charged nothing.

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    The production book that I am aware of covers 1965 through 1967. I am sure that there should be others, but have no confirmation of that. You definitely need to have access to a source who has access to the factory archive. A friend happened to take a picture of the book.
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