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    the vent / front quarter window on the drivers and passenger side is SWB as well isn't it? passenger side picture of 0004 attached

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    this has been posted on this board before - I am almost certain it is GTS 0004 at the Acropolis Rally as a practice car for Toivonen in 1969
    If anyone has a better quality photo where the license plate can be read (or maybe better eyes that me ) I would love to see it and know what that plate actually is
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    But in that photo Hugh the car shows double tie downs on the hood where other photos show a single tie down?

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    I think I see a front vent window hinge. And yes to two hold downs, the same as at the Inca Rally. Also the front bumper looks different with fog light brackets, the addition of a roll bar and repositioning the hood lights. While striping the paint I determined the factory repainted the car at least four times. From June 68 to Sept 69 it appears this car was reconfigured many times.

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    I agree with seeing the vent window hinge.

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    It would have been surprising if they equipped the car with only one tie down for the Acropolis. It had a reputation as a rough car wrecker. I am still not certain of the identity of this car BUT I think it is almost certain that it is 0004.

    Other sites (Pbase etc) have identified it as Toivonen and mistaken it as his winning car but that ran rally number 1 and was registered S M 2929.
    All the factory cars ran two tie downs and that type of front bumper with the foglight cutouts. But they had rally numbers 1, 4 and 6. There was no one with rally plate 9 in the entry list (or at least on any entry list that I can find)

    There is no doubt that it has an Acropolis rally plate of the type used that year on the front bonnet. As mentioned before I cant read the licence plate BUT I have now seen GREEK plates of the period and the follow the same format - two letters followed by a space and 4 numbers and black (or very dark blue numbering on a white background.)

    So i am now wondering IF the car in the photo was on Greek registration. I cant see the detail well enough to recognize the driver to see if this actually IS Toivonen in the car or is something else altogether including the possibility that it is a shot of the actual rally with an unknown crew in it (which means it still may be 0004 but loaned to a local driver for the event??)
    it has never made a lot of sense to me why a practice car would run with a set of rally numbers on it (although they did at the Targa Florio but usually with the addition of a T) but to date I have had no other explanation apart from Porsche entering car #9 s the practice car but still that does not explain the registration number
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    Finally I got my 'puter to give up one scan. This is from page 116 from the Long book. 1969 911S with SWB turn signal lights. Maybe a 320xxx car?Name:  Scan0010.jpg
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    possibly BUT I think more likely just an early (or maybe even pre) production car for the PRESSE department for photos etc
    Here are another couple of photos of it.
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    Here Is the winning 911S at the 1969 Acropolis rally..
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOUGS73E View Post
    Didn't realise that a 911 batwing will fit on a 914 steering wheel. I thought the latter had a shallower depth?

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