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Thread: Jorge Perez is the CEO of the Early 911S Registry?

  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by StephenAcworth View Post
    John, Can you post a link to the state filings?
    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Miller View Post
    Jorge Perez is one of the three of us (remaining) that help run the club... He is not defined as our CEO...
    Attached is our latest Statement of Information (SI-100) as filled with the California Secretary of State. It is dated February 20th, 2019 and identifies Jorge Perez as CEO and President.

    https://esrcomments.webstarts.com/3.html

    I have edited this document only to remove personal address information.
    Last edited by LiveFromNY; 08-29-2019 at 06:01 PM.
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  2. #12
    So, of the 50 calls I've had today (no idea how everyone is getting my number), the last one was from Jorge Perez.

    Jorge and I spoke for probably 30 minutes in significant detail. And, while we didn't agree about very much, we did agree on one thing... we BOTH want to help the ESR become a better resource for our members and thrive for everyone's benefit.

    Prior to this call, I barely knew Jorge. We spoke, I believe once, several years ago and that conversation was mostly me making suggestions about his shopping cart (an impulse I can't seem to control). My overall recollection of that conversation was that Jorge was a helluva nice guy. And he did his best to be nice today under strained circumstances.

    I told Jorge that my goal was simple. That I was frustrated about some of the aspects of the management of our organization (forum moderation being only one of many) and that my only goal was to see that the organization was run according to the collective wishes of our members, that I believe our dues-paying members deserve a voice at the table and I don't think anyone can make a serious argument against that. To the extent we spoke about the moderation issue that started all this, I made the point that has been made to me over and over again the last couple of days by some of our most senior members: Frank Beck's contributions are only the latest unfortunate loss that can be directly attributed to our moderators. And enough is enough.

    I also told Jorge something else, that whether we agreed on these issues or not, nothing that happened at the ESR would affect my patronage of his business. If Jorge really wants to help, and he's here with good intentions, he deserves to know that he's not risking his livelihood to do so. I've placed probably hundreds of orders with SM over the last several years and will continue to do so. I hope our members, whether they agree with Jorge or not, will continue to do the same while they give Jorge the chance to help as he says he wants to do.
    Last edited by LiveFromNY; 08-29-2019 at 07:45 PM.
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    1965 911 (301100), 1965 911 (301331), 1967 912/6, 1968 912 Soft Window Targa, 1969 911S Soft Window Targa, 1969 912 Coupe, 1969 912 Sunroof Coupe, 1970 911T Sunroof Coupe, 1972 911T Coupe, 1973 911S Targa

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    I have edited this document only to remove personal address information.
    Thank you JP … We are on the same page...

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  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Miller View Post
    Thank you JP … We are on the same page...

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    Of course. Sorry for the initial oversight.
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    The early ones...
    1965 911 (301100), 1965 911 (301331), 1967 912/6, 1968 912 Soft Window Targa, 1969 911S Soft Window Targa, 1969 912 Coupe, 1969 912 Sunroof Coupe, 1970 911T Sunroof Coupe, 1972 911T Coupe, 1973 911S Targa

  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Miller View Post
    Oh My... Now What !!!!

    Those who really read this site and those who are paid Registry members have known Jorge Perez's involvement with the club since the end of last year....

    First I wrote this last Dec.:
    http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...rship-and-all…



    Then Jorge introduced himself in ESSES 29/3&4 as 'New Board Member':



    Jorge had been writing and signing the 'Registry Review' (with the absence of John Dilger writing his editorial page 'Due Dilergence') for the last 3 quarterly ESSES issues.

    Jorge has kept SMC discreet from the message board and pays full to the club for SMC's advertising in the ESSES as well any SMC forum sponsor patches... Jorge does not post on the board

    Jorge Perez is one of the three of us (remaining) that help run the club... He is not defined as our CEO...

    The proof of the club running smoother is that the paid membership should be reading their new ESSES today or tomorrow... about 2 weeks early... a first for this club !!!

    Hope this eases so minds and makes things a bit clearer...

    Thanks,
    Chuck
    Great to see that there was nothing untoward here and that this was fully disclosed in a public forum.
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    Wow... that Jorge is some "boy scout"!

    Chuck, looks like after you sent me the PM you got out here to make sure that whatever I said would be considered irrelevant. JP, I recall having a conversation with you... but looks like what I said went in one ear and out the other.

    This is a very small community in terms of our vintage cars... it's even smaller here on the Registry, and those who give a rip about the politics of the board is an even smaller percentage, so I think I'm "speaking" to maybe 5 people (6?).

    I've got a very strong heartfelt background in vintage Porsche's, ever since I was a small kid being around my dad with these cars. I've owned many of them over the last 35+ years. I've spent a long time with this Registry.... opined a lot, shared a lot with a lot of people here and had some great times.

    About 10 years ago I started a small hobby business of parts. To help that business along I started to do business with some retailers to increase cash flow and keep new products in the pipe line. Make no mistake, this hobby has to keep itself going, and it's made a profit in one year only so far (2015).

    In Jan of 2016, I was doing a pretty good business with Sierra Madre. It came to my attention that Jorge made a VERY unscrupulous (imho) business decision that had a very detrimental financial impact on my current overall business, and at that time SM was about 20% of my gross sales on top of it. I called Jorge out on it, and told him I couldn't do business with him under these circumstances, and was told by Jorge "that if I didn't sell him he would have all the products that he purchased from me made by someone else".

    Jorge probably thought he had me over a barrel... he didn't. When I started this business I told myself I wouldn't be treated the way I was in my former garment industry business. I sucked it up, stopped doing business with SM, and life went on. Trust me when I tell you that 30+ years in the womens and mens garment business in Manhattan and LA will give you a lot of stories, I've been screwed before many times. Perhaps I was a bit too Pollyanna to think it wouldn't happen in this small world.....

    I've never replaced the business I've had... but I don't care, some things are worth fighting for. I'm also sure that I haven't had the cash flow in the last few years to put out the number of products I would like to, but I'm still pushing out new items, and I've now started to make items that are much more difficult to make, and not make simple items where you end up with many suppliers in the marketplace.

    Fast forward a few years... and I hear that Jorge is going to be part of the board hear. I sent Chuck a pretty strongly worded PM advising him of what I had been through and that I didn't think it would be good for the Registry. Chuck said he would try to see that Jorge made things right with me... ha ha. I knew I wouldn't hear from Jorge, and I didn't.

    I've pulled my ad in Esses (full page) as I don't want to "line" Jorge's pockets. And I'm trying to decide if I go ahead here on the Registry or not now that Jorge is the CEO. I'm not sure, some may say by leaving it's cutting off my nose to spite my face (again, it's a VERY small world), ... but I have principles in my business, and staying here I'm sure that Jorge will figure out some way to fcuk me again.

    Thanks to the 5 of you (6?) for reading this.

    Eric

    PS: Sorry for the rambling thoughts and potential miss-spelled words... I'm pretty pissed off right now.
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    A "member of The Gang of 21"
    Not wearing a "white hat"

  7. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by LiveFromNY View Post
    So, of the 50 calls I've had today (no idea how everyone is getting my number), the last one was from Jorge Perez.

    Jorge and I spoke for probably 30 minutes in significant detail. And, while we didn't agree about very much, we did agree on one thing... we BOTH want to help the ESR become a better resource for our members and thrive for everyone's benefit.

    Prior to this call, I barely knew Jorge. We spoke, I believe once, several years ago and that conversation was mostly me making suggestions about his shopping cart (an impulse I can't seem to control). My overall recollection of that conversation was that Jorge was a helluva nice guy. And he did his best to be nice today under strained circumstances.

    I told Jorge that my goal was simple. That I was frustrated about some of the aspects of the management of our organization (forum moderation being only one of many) and that my only goal was to see that the organization was run according to the collective wishes of our members, that I believe our dues-paying members deserve a voice at the table and I don't think anyone can make a serious argument against that. To the extent we spoke about the moderation issue that started all this, I made the point that has been made to me over and over again the last couple of days by some of our most senior members: Frank Beck's contributions are only the latest unfortunate loss that can be directly attributed to our moderators. And enough is enough.

    I also told Jorge something else, that whether we agreed on these issues or not, nothing that happened at the ESR would affect my patronage of his business. If Jorge really wants to help, and he's here with good intentions, he deserves to know that he's not risking his livelihood to do so. I've placed hundreds of orders with SM over the last several years and will continue to do so. I hope our members, whether they agree with Jorge or not, will continue to do the same while they give Jorge the chance to help as he says he wants to do.
    Sounds like a good discussion. Certainly those who agree with Jorge would have no reason not to patronage his company. While I am sure you got your point of view across, and those of the senior members, there are always 3 sides to a story. I hope that Jorge also understands that there are many here who want to see the club move forward in a positive direction - and that that doesn’t necessitate an atmosphere of anything goes. Enough is enough applies to more than just the Moderators. No one person should be above the common goals of the registry, especially one who doesn’t see any value from being a paying member.
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    1974 914 2.0 - Yellow
    1997 993 C4S Coupe - Silver

  8. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Simonjjb View Post
    Great to see that there was nothing untoward here
    Nothing untoward here? The naming of a new CEO of a 501c7 with no input whatsoever from the dues-paying members? I humbly disagree. I consider this extremely untoward.
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    The early ones...
    1965 911 (301100), 1965 911 (301331), 1967 912/6, 1968 912 Soft Window Targa, 1969 911S Soft Window Targa, 1969 912 Coupe, 1969 912 Sunroof Coupe, 1970 911T Sunroof Coupe, 1972 911T Coupe, 1973 911S Targa

  9. #19
    I'm a retired lawyer and not a retired accountant. But having said that, does this board make any money? If no, why do we care about tax exempt status. Eric you are too valuable to lose as a member and I hope you continue on. In my time I represented a lot of NY "garmentos". I understand you frustration. How will Jorge monetize this site? Free advertising? I think we all pretty much buy based on our opinions and needs. Have had my fights with Frank about guns and learned not to broach the subject. However, as much as I enjoyed Frank's humor it obviously went to far and be you friend or foe, that is undeniable. But we have now devolved into a pissing contest about board management. Do we really care? Does Frank even care? Who gives a shit until Chuck starts to strike technical information. Let's just eliminate "off topic" for starters.
    Last edited by doigthom; 08-30-2019 at 04:16 AM.

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Soterik View Post
    JP, I recall having a conversation with you... but looks like what I said went in one ear and out the other.
    You did tell me about yours and Jorge's history, Eric, and I did take it seriously - seriously enough that I made sure Jorge knew I was aware of it when we spoke - but not as seriously as I should have. Quite frankly, I was unprepared for Jorge's phone call and was caught off-guard. Had I had more time to prepare, the conversation - and my post regarding that conversation - may have gone differently.

    You're a valuable member of this community and have always treated me with kindness and respect. You deserved better from me and I apologize.
    Last edited by LiveFromNY; 08-29-2019 at 08:54 PM.
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    1965 911 (301100), 1965 911 (301331), 1967 912/6, 1968 912 Soft Window Targa, 1969 911S Soft Window Targa, 1969 912 Coupe, 1969 912 Sunroof Coupe, 1970 911T Sunroof Coupe, 1972 911T Coupe, 1973 911S Targa

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