NOS 914/6, Carrera RS 380mm Steering Wheel

[Rennman]

If you are restoring a great 914/6, early 911 or Carrera RS this would be a great part to use. When was the last time you saw a perfect new old stock wheel? We all know it is nearly impossible to recover a wheel and get it to look factory. If the possibility of an incorrect part number could keep you up at night then this may not be the wheel for you. I have never been one to hang on date codes or part numbers if the needed part is physically the same. Porsche produced the same parts with different numbers at different times. If the part is really a new old stock part in the end what is the difference? You could go decades before you found a new old stock wheel with the RS part number you are mentioning, or never find one at all.

[911MRP]

It is a great wheel and special being NOS. I hope it sells for what you want. However think the points you make about the rarity rather argue for the distinction that I and other such as Clyde make.

I recall having a conversation with a very well regarded specialist about an area of rust on bottom of door on an original first series RS door with thinner guage panels. A couple of bubbles where moisture had gatbered. His answer was don't repair the small affected area he'd just put on a door sourced from a solid much later car. . Easier he claimed and indistinguishable to most this hallowed expert said. I ran away fast and never darkened their doors despite their stellar reputation in RS world. Details matter to some.

Let's not fall out over it --buyers can decide now the distinction is clear. Open and transparent is the new mantra around the forum I hear

[orange911]

I agree it’s a really nice wheel, but if you’re saying that this is identical to the 806.10, I disagree. You still need a canceling ring to make it work. Then, the only difference is a part number. For that price it should be plug and play. You may be missing out on potential buyers because they don’t want to deal with sourcing and mounting the canceling ring. GLWS

[Allen Henderson]

Steering Wheel Geeks,

I have a very good friend with an RS in the 600 +/- range. He took off his horn pad for me. This is what he found for us ! BTW, Clearly I like this "stuff." Still and I've judged several concours...we never asked nor saw the entrant remove his horn button Not only that, in fact...OMG!...we don't check for matching numbers...and no, it is not a rinky dink concours. Thanks.

-Allen-

[911MRP]

Thanks ...looks like another 6...as it should be if original genuine factory part uniquely for Carrera RS.
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also consistent with my findings that the old stock from the x/70 leftover stock was replenished somewhere around the cusp of the original 500 with date moving directly to batches with 73. Not as sometime stated 71 or 72. Maybe we'll find 71 or 72 806.10 bit I doubt it as explained above.

Frankly I don't give a cr@p about concours but I do care lot about understanding original factory spec being clearly documented with evidence and not getting such knowledge lost or distorted!

Hope bumps help sell the wheel FS.

Steve

PS does it have a unique to RS up to a date Feb iirc fragile plastic horn push not sure 600+/- Vin date production in that regard ?

[Rennman]

I agree it’s a really nice wheel, but if you’re saying that this is identical to the 806.10, I disagree. You still need a canceling ring to make it work. Then, the only difference is a part number. For that price it should be plug and play. You may be missing out on potential buyers because they don’t want to deal with sourcing and mounting the canceling ring. GLWS

The canceling ring is a very common part and the same from 356B to 1973. Happy to include one.

[BOYER73S]

Steering Wheel Geeks,

I have a very good friend with an RS in the 600 +/- range. He took off his horn button for me. This is what he found for us ! BTW, Clearly I like this "stuff." Still and I've judged several concours...we never asked not saw the entrant remove his horn button Not only that, in fact...OMG!...we don't check for matching numbers...and no, it is not a rinky dink concours. Thanks.

-Allen-

Nice pic Allen just adds further confirmation to the 806 10 and Steve’s explanation
re the date code changes as that car would have been a Jan 73 car I believe

Not sure if that was what you were intending but good job anyway😉

[Allen Henderson]

Nice pic Allen just adds further confirmation to the 806 10 and Steve’s explanation
re the date code changes as that car would have been a Jan 73 car I believe

Not sure if that was what you were intending but good job anyway��

If I read Steve's post correctly (the link in it doesn't work for me ?!) then a 1970 date code (how about '71 too) were found in early RSs? Is it implied those had a 914 347 806 10 part number? Can someone provide a photo of an "806" wheel with a 1970 (or 71) date stamp? In any case, it is agreed, I think?, that the 805 wheel is the the same as an 805. My point on the concours really was only that the two wheels are identical. Thanks.

[911MRP]

To be very clear
806.10 is the original RS wheel not an 805.10 as often incorrectly stated. Confirmed by parts book and various owners of cars with their wheels
Whether or not they look identical when fitted to me is irrelevant in authenticity matters if not the RS part.... it is not the RS part! Period.
The earliest RS wheels are definitely 70 dated and doesn't require photo to prove that factoid is well known to those who followed and owned these early RS cars. Surprised this 70 wheel stamp is news as it was one of the things that I checked on ppi early 90s along with lots of distinctive RS things -- important to know what it is ! Too many people fall for it looks like and rs so must be an rs and then wonder why surprised having not mastered the subject!
Based on what I've seen when the 70 dated ran out that went to 73 dated. Obviously i've not seen every car that is based on my car being 200 series being 70 dated and Brian's being 400 series and iirc 73. And Alan's friend 600ish being 1 73. I've sen a lot but never seen 71 or 72 806.10 wheel on an RS; if any exist they would've been in a window of 300 series on month of Jan build I suppose but doubt it for the reasons I've stated several times. Students of RS know there were only meant to be 500 examples so obviously RS spec parts had to be sourced fast for the special edition homogation project when in October 72 the next 500 was announced. Also remember in the markets they were sold the RS wasn't even included in the 73 model year launch pricing -- I have all original price lists and launch documents and rare minutes of internal dealer meeting for 73 launch etc. Price for RS UK first appears with early Oct for launch on Paris.. All very cycle compressed as this was a project to achieve homologatIon not a normal model year lineup change

Don't know how to be more clear and why RS owners repeatedly have dispelled this noise. It irritates me that some folks are listened to. While others who own cars / provide evidence are ignored.

Of course I would be interested in fact based proof of it being different but have little truck for noise until then.Frankly how things are described and if buyers believe it there is plenty of info out there. I'm done with this. I sense Clyde is frustrated on this point too. Nothing personal in my frustration but struggling to understand why something simple and has been restarted remains confused.

GLWS I hope it gets 10x asking money I don't care a jot as long as it is accurately represented wrt RS. My car with wheel and rare RS only surviving intact plastic hornpush is the correct and original still with the factory leather.

Simple truth: I don't want noise on ESR which gets used as reference by many confusing the facts-- that's my motivation for commenting on things I feel are incorrect on this forum.

Steve

[Allen Henderson]

Rounders,

A posted pic of an 806 with a 1970 date code would be appreciated. I'm not arguing with anything Steve has written. Thanks.