Sonderwunsch . . .

[911T1971]

Re the fog lights, the 2.4l accessories list states

- 458/459 round fog lights for under the bumper 911E, 911S (which came standard with front spoiler)
-429/430 square fog lights for under the bumper 911T (which did not came in standard with front spoiler)

If the 911T had option M473 (which included a S-bumper), it also needed round fog lights.
If however standard bumper w/o spoiler, square ones were only option.

So square fog lights under an S-bumper are a „Sonderwunsch“ but if rounded fog lights its not?
I think if fog lights are optioned for an S-bumper, they were rounded.
TTG lights are indicated as well, btw.

Accessories 73 (72 is currently out of my house).

[haul]

Karim, nice explained by facts..
Dave, out off your archive, when do the first
911 Kardexes have the 66** color code listed?


The 912 Kardexes have the 66** color code listed must be

350706 6602
350712 6602

August/September production line

451039 6604
451255 6604
451259 6604

br
haul

[911T1971]

As for the 65/66 paintag issue, if a June 65 built 911 or 912 (European market only) wears a 1966 paint tag/code, its most likely because it followed the Standard Colors Color Chart, dated 5.65, which was valid and in use after that date. I have no hard facts but the issue date 5.65 is exceptional, as usually Color Chart are dated 9/xx or 1/xx.

Btw it is not true that Color Charts were „printed in advance“ and also dated prior to Model Year.
As Price lists, it seems they were dated within Model Years.
Brochures also were dated within Model Years but sometimes used images from previous Model Years, usually shot in spring, while the brochures was in use for Fall -new Model Year- only.

Color Chart and Price lists however needed to follow the order procedures and probably were in use for immediate. Price list were even printed twice, usually 8/xx and 1/xx, to adjust to currency changes of DM Deutschmark/US dollar within a single Model Year.

As for 356/912/911 Color Charts, i agree w Dave, around April 65-July 65, probably both Color Charts might were in use.

Here one of my favorite items, the combined 356/911 brochure/pricelist, undated but most likely first half of 1965.
Note the huge price gap from 356 to the new 911, to the 356 C Coupe the new 911 car was over 50./. more expensive and to the SC Convertible, still 42./. more.

[_gonbau]

For me the perfect definition of a sonderwunsch cars are the 356's know as the Schmidt cars. These cars were heavily customized way beyond special paint and interior colors per the owners request. Example of one of these cars can be found here https://corianiandrea.wixsite.com/53456

It is known why these vehicles were delivered in Hahn 115?

[haul]

my 350286 (912) also had a 66 paint code and leather interior

Franz,
may we see the Kardex, if you have one available, please

[moito]

Franz,
may we see the Kardex, if you have one available, please

don`t have it

[haul]

It is known why these vehicles were delivered in Hahn 115?

very nice car, indeed.

hahn 115???

btw: the 356 article writer sure meant alfred teves and not albert teves.
He did found the ATE company, producing brake calipers and else automotive stuff.

[haul]

don`t have it

Dave sure can help out.... just wonder, as your 912 pops out in the middle of the color coded 64** neighbours

[_gonbau]

very nice car, indeed.

hahn 115???

btw: the 356 article writer sure meant alfred teves and not albert teves.
He did found the ATE company, producing brake calipers and else automotive stuff.

Hahn dealer
I see that Hahn does not appear in the tourist delivery brochures. Is it due to its proximity to the factory?
the modifications of those cars, did the factory? Or the dealer?

[LongRanger]

. . . Faktory
http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...-body-parts-FS


I would think these were built for something like Porsche's GTS 'funny' cars --- light-weight bits to mimic the steel ones . . . but to reduce the weight

Still waiting for someone to bring-up a car that has this stuff listed as 'optional'


Sonderwunsch? . . .

. . . or just sneaky Faktory-only type-bits?



Either way . . . super-special



Dream 'bout these, still



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