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[mejia_anthony]

I respectfully disagree. Are you basing your opinion on the milling tool marks left on the 13/14 wrench but no tool mill marks on the other wrenches? I hope not. The condition of the milling tools and the speed used at the time of the milling determined if it left the milling marks. A wrench could be milled/machined at the ends without leaving the cutting mill marks.

Can you please explain your opinion.

[mejia_anthony]

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Here is another photo from the back side of the same wrench you’re claiming is not a milled wrench. If look closely on the left side of the wrench, you can see the cutting marks. It is not as pronounced as the one you’re claiming is the only “correct milled end” but its the same cutting marks just not as defined. Why would they machined/milled one side but not the other??

[Allen Henderson]

Tool geeks,

I'll chime in to say, and I have a high res. display, these ALL look like milled ends to me. And, also, the photos are really good. GLWS ! Thanks.

-Allen-

[Allen Henderson]

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Here is a Drop Forged Steal wrench with the same finish all the way through, no milled/smooth/machined ends.

I agree. Ugly (non milled) ends LOL Thanks.

-Allen-

[LiveFromNY]

I have a one owner, 1968 912 with the original toolkit and 3 of the 5 wrenches are of the correct, non-cast style and with milled edges that, although clearly milled/machined, you cannot see any milling marks.

[Allen Henderson]

Tool geeks and not so geeky... I think part of the problem where is the higher resolution (close ups) of some the wrench ends. If we got even closer we could see atoms! Looking at the first images in the post, which to me are exemplary, don't they ALL look milled. I have a high res screen and am looking on a PC. Here is a cropped screen shot. These ends look very smooth (not cast) and milled to me. My good friend Jim mentioned "flat." What are "flat?" Jim? thanks.

[mejia_anthony]

Thank you guys for your input, I really appreciate it. I really needed an answer one way or the other. I didn’t want people to think that I was false advertising. Not worth the hassle.

[mejia_anthony]

I think part of the issue is people confusing “milled” with tool marks vs milled as in machined/smooth.

[Allen Henderson]

I think part of the issue is people confusing “milled” with tool marks vs milled as in machined/smooth.

Yes, the degree of milling and, exactly, the tool marks left, varied, probably from time to time. The non-milled ends probably came about as a result of 1. improved casting techniques and 2. an effort to save cost. Today it is called "continuous improvement" which has been, by now, time worn mantra from my days in industry----wonder what they call it today? Thanks.

-Allen-

[juche_namja]

Yes, the degree of milling and, exactly, the tool marks left, varied, probably from time to time. The non-milled ends probably came about as a result of 1. improved casting techniques and 2. an effort to save cost. Today it is called "continuous improvement" which has been, by now, time worn mantra from my days in industry----wonder what they call it today? Thanks.

-Allen-

Hi Allen, You nailed it: 1. improved casting techniques 2. effort to save money

It's been a while, but I sold a "2. Flat" type wrench and it got kicked back by the buyer as "not milled". I didn't have time to debate and had no data to support how it was made, but Flat doesn't look milled , looks like a better casting. It's all about the striations.