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    Help wanted for oil lines Sportomatic 68.

    Recently I got my rebuilt engine back, it is now in the car but I have questions about the oil lines.
    I took the engine and gearbox out of the car a couple of years ago and delivered it to the engine builder without having had a good look at it or taking pictures.
    They didn't do that either and now there are some questions regarding the oil lines.
    I now have some old hoses and some newer pipe versions.
    First of all I would like to see some pictures showing how the two original steel lines run under the gearbox and how they are attached except for their screw couplings. Does anyone have pictures?

    Attached pictures of the old hoses and their replacement pipe versions.
    The line with the thin pipe which runs from the tank to the sportomatic pump has a hose which is too short. See picture.
    I guess the new pipes aren't for my car.

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    1968 Porsche 911S Sportomatic
    1959 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint Veloce
    1963 Triumph TR4

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    I assume you're in the Netherlands,,,,I'd just take your old hoses to a hose shop and have them make new hoses with your old fittings. A Cohline crimper shouldn't be hard to find over there.
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    These are the only images I can find from my old '68 Sporto that might help?
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    I have these
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    Gentlemen, thank you for your help.
    Now I have more certainty about the original assembly.
    On the fourth picture of jt912 I see the thick and thin line under the converter running to the driver side of the engine to the two oil pumps. Maybe the hoses of those lines I have are too short because they might come from a long wheel base 911 or a mistake was made when replacing them. I'm going to try them on again and when I'm sure I'll have longer hoses put on them.
    In the mean time I also found an older thread where it was told that the line with the thick metal pipe to the oil pump in the engine was replaced by a rubber hose over the gearbox. On illustration 104-00 I think this is shown, 18 is the metal pipe under the gearbox and 17 is the rubber hose over the gearbox. Unfortunately the description is misleading. On illustration 104-20 (sportomatic) the rubber hose is not present.
    I will keep you informed.
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    With the knowledge gained yesterday I started to fit the pipes again today and with a good result. However the hose from the pipe to the sportomatic oil pump should be 7 cm longer.
    Illustration 104-20 shows two clamps 34 and 39 with which the pipes have to be fixed but it is not yet clear to me where. Maybe jt912 knows that?

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    Maybe this helps?
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    Yes it is possible to fasten the thin pipe with the bolt the thick pipe is fastened but I expected it in the middle to prevent vibrations that maybe leads to a crack.
    Do you still own your sportomatic? It has a nice color.
    1968 Porsche 911S Sportomatic
    1959 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint Veloce
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