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    Interesting Euro 1971 911S

    So I did some downsizing and would like to eventually do a 70-71 style ST build, was thinking of using a 78-83SC but a LWB shell would be of interest as well. I just don't want to mess up a numbers matching or unique factory spec car. I have been keeping an eye out for a candidate and when this 71S coupe came up for sale close by I had to have a look. Sounded ideal as it wasn't a matching numbers car and needed exterior body panels anyhow. When I looked at the car it was obviously a euro car and the colour tag showed it wasn't delivered in a standard colour from new. Seemed like a cool car from new but I still felt it could be a good starting point.

    I got the car home and emailed davep on here for a vin report. That's when things got more interesting, turns out it was a factory direct sale with a possible special engine, along with a decent string of options. Curious on the colour I took the door card off and with some thinner was able to get a good showing of the original paint(the lighter orange areas in the photos are through the clear coat) A very nice metallic orange colour, would have looked great when new with the pepita seats. Have yet to learn what option M480 is on it and hoping to track down some previous owners but I am feeling like it might make more sense to restore this to its very cool factory spec. I had a search through some factory photos and didn't come across it, should stick out a bit in the custom colour with rear wiper and no front bumperettes. Has anyone come across info on this car before or perhaps some factory photos? Vin is 9111300404. It's unfortunate that it was updated and painted red but well worth saving, as an S or ST build. Currently has a 2.7 in it, and was converted to a sportomatic... What are your thoughts?
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    Hello I saw this car on Pelican and was glad to see someone picked it up that might take it back to its former glory ..
    It’s very interesting that you found the option list and fact that it may have had a paint to sample color .
    If it were mine I certainly would either return it to as close to stock or give it some performance upgrades .
    It seems ‘70-‘73:cars often suffered the update syndrome I even had a ‘71 which I did the same unfortunately ..
    Looks like a fun project good luck , B

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    Thanks for sharing this interesting car.

    Here are two orange cars with factory plates and no front over riders.

    The car with Stuttgart plate S-Y 1811 appears in a 1972 model year Italian brochure and other factory photos. It has features of the 1971 models and 2.4 L engine designation of the 1972 models. The blue sticker on the license plate indicates that the car was likely first registered in 1970 and required re-inspection in 1972. This car also has the rear wiper. The color in photos ranges from dark orange to light orange, so its true color is a bit of a mystery.

    There is also a car with Leonburg plate LEO-ZA 57. The factory used Leonburg LEO-ZA plates around 1971-1972 on Carrera RS and RSR cars.

    You might find a good sample of the original color under the paint tag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retroel View Post
    . . . obviously a euro car and the colour tag showed it wasn't delivered in a standard colour . . .

    . . . turns out it was a factory direct sale with a possible special engine, along with a decent string of options. Curious on the colour . . . . A very nice metallic orange colour
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    Wow! --- very cool car

    'Dealer 100' cars can be interesting --- not just because of who owned them . . . but why:
    https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...er-Nr-100-Cars

    And any 'special paint' car is, well, special:
    https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...aint-to-Sample

    I hope you consider restoring the car back to stock. A very different outcome from what you thought, perhaps, but --- I would definitely try to research as much as you can, regardless. Special color + special engine + 'Dealer 100' = something unique and IMO worth bringing back

    Anyway --- congratulations! . . . and thank you for sharing


    And keep us updated on your progress, will you?


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    Thanks for the replies and thanks for the photos Eric! Looks to me like S-Y 1811 is a very possible candidate for this car when new. The second photo of it looks very much like the colour I see behind the door panel, and I found another photo of the first photo and it looks closer in colour as how I'd imagine it would look in sunlight. Can't be too many in this colour with a rear wiper, and a 2.4 in it would explain the special engine. Funny they used a 70-71 911S for the 72 advertisement photos, still has the round mirror and appears to be no oil flap, black engine grill and letters though. One thing I see that doesn't line up is the photos of S-Y 1811 show no headrests, whereas the build sheet says there are L+R headrests.. The tow hook would be another clue but hard to see in those photos.

    Is there any way of tracing a vin number down through the registration number? That would answer the question if it was S-Y 1811 or not. I'm sure that info would be readily available to some people, I am not one of those people though.

    Love how cars like this still surface, odd it was in Canada of all places but then again a narrow body ST was found not that long ago here. You really never know what can happen to a car in 50+years! I agree it should be brought back to it's original state and probably not ideal for what I had in mind, no worries there though, it's a very cool car. Hoping to find out more about it in the next while!
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    Definitely carefully restore to original and unique configuration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retroel View Post
    . . . Can't be too many in this colour with a rear wiper, and a 2.4 in it would explain the special engine . . .
    Hm. I can think of another one --- a '71 S with a 'special (2.4) engine' . . .
    https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...siffert%2C+911
    https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...-to-Jo-Siffert
    https://www.early911sregistry.org/fo...hlight=siffert



    Quote Originally Posted by retroel View Post
    . . . Is there any way of tracing a vin number down through the registration number? That would answer the question if it was S-Y 1811 or not. I'm sure that info would be readily available to some people . . .
    I would think the 'production number' (1010437 on the dash) would be all the Porsche Arkive would need to tell you anything you wanted to know
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