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    The Holy Grail

    All of us into early 911's want to find a special car, a member of this board just did,a 1967 911 with sport package for competion, one owner from new. The original owner was a racer,the car won everytrhing in SCCA,also raced in IMSA. HE WON THE 1971 New York Road Racing Championship; he won several division titles.Car has full documentation newspaper articles,original window sticker,leter from porsche racing dept. dash placks from most of its races ,even a DVD;the car and driver beat Bruce Jennings.Car has 34,000 original miles 9,000 race,THE rest,25,000, street,original paint original decals.this is a true example of a piece of history.the member will post later

    BOY, WHAT car i tried to buy it,he just laugh at me;move over 911R,911T/R,911S/T,911 CARRRA RS

    A TRUE TREASURE--THE HOLY GRAIL

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    For some of us the Holy Grail of collecting something may not be a Porsche....for me the Holy Grail of collecting would to be able to forensically prove a rifle I own was at the Battle of the Little Big Horn...if I could do that I would have one of the few guns that could be attributed to an indivdual who fought at the battle and the only one belonging to a Medal of Honor Receipiant. That rifle would be worth a fleet of RS's....
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    Wow! certainly we are all looking forward to more info.

    But 'The Holy Grail'? You obviously know your stuff Frank but nobody outside of the US even knows what the SCCA is... really, for the holy grail, aren't we talking something European, races like Paris Dakar, Monte Carlo, or Le Mans; drivers like Elford, Gurney or even McNish?

    Regardless, sounds like a great find - let's hear more!
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    rifle

    Tabs,get a copy of LOCK STOCKAND TWO SMOKING BARRELS directed by guy Richie, but of course I was speaking of early 911's

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    Frank,

    Thanks for letting the cat out. Holly Grail may be tough for any car to live up to. The car I bought from the original owner is a 67 911 that was built with the option 9552 Rally Kit. What makes this car really special to me is it is a window to what an AMERICAN road racing 911 was. It is a real time warp as it was parked after it's last race in 1973. Not taking anything away from Euro racing, to me an old Porsche race car that raced here is big too.

    The original owner replaced his S 90 with this car. He began doing Gymkanas. Hans then got into SCCA racing where he did very well with many first place wins in this car and including overall championships in C,D,E, and F Production classes. I am trying to compile the wins that he had. Hans then progressed the 911 into an IMSA GTU car where he competed in the Camel GT among other races. With this (obsolete) 2.0 car he was competing with newer and more powerfull cars. At the 6 hour at Watkins Glen he even beat Bruce Jennings in a 2.5 liter 911. By all accounts Hans was fast. There is alot more history that I still need to sort through.

    The car sits as it was parked in 1973 including some pretty good battle scars in the original paint. Much more to come.

    Best,

    Don

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    whose car? any pics? i would love to hear more about it, as well as see some pics with details of factory goodies.

    tabs,

    that rifle sounds really interesting. maybe you should contact the people on the pbs show history detectives. http://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectives/
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    Point taken Tom. We all know Jennings had a big carreer. The point was that Hans was a small time racer (with a small time budget and car) and was known to be faster than some big time guys at his local tracks, Watkins Glen, Lime Rock, and Thompson. Because the search you did did not turn up much does not mean there were more races than what you found. I spoke with a not so old timer yesterday who was there back when and the one thing he said was the guy could beat Jennings. He saw it himself.

    Han's career as an IMSA driver was not as successfull as when he ran SCCA. There he won ALOT of firsts. I saw the stacks of silver bowls and cups. Either way I am still high from the find. Wins or no wins. C'mon a SWB racecar that has been sitting for over 30 years, Rally kit too. I am thrilled.

    Tom, I put pictures and the story out for others to enjoy. I am keeping the car and really do not care if it is "Built up" or not. Heck my 68 Rally never even raced!

    Best,

    Don

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    Cool Find

    Don,
    Nice going... I think you need to build a bigger garage.

    Tom, nobody is doubting Bruce Jennings stature here... but if I beat Jennings once in a straight fight I'd still be talking about it!

    Jol

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