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    Loud lederhosen saves lives hoffman912's Avatar
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    damn, from that 1st pic, it looked like a swb car. with teh angle it was at, you couldnt see the small lwb flares, and the lights made it hard to see the horn grills.

    does anyone have immages of Sobieslaw Zasada's 912 that he rallied in 1967?

    from the 912 registry:



    The image above is a digital composite of two pages from the 1968 Factory Press Kit, announcing Sobieslaw Zasada's success as the '67 European Rally Champion with his 912. Translation by 912 owner Alex v. Wachter:

    "1967 Year-End Report.

    Second part, Motorsport

    Sobieslav Zastavda, Polish Ralley Champion, 912.

    Porsche wins the European Championship for Gran-Tourismo- and "Close-to-Road-Spec" cars.

    Since the last Ralley Monte Carlo with the Porsche-Team, top driving-team Vic Elford/David Stone overarchieved all expectations and won with their Porsche 911S not only the Rally European Championship. They won the Lyon Charbonnieres Solitude, the Tulpenrally and the Rally Geneva in their class, too.

    In the "Close-to Series" cars class, the Pole Sobieslaw Zastava won the European Master Title in a Porsche 912.

    Elford/Stone = 57 points, Zasada = 64 points"

    NOTE: In the 9th event in the 1967 European Rallye Championship, the Geneva Rallye, Zasada and Dobrzanski placed fourth overall. As shown above, Zasada and his 912 actually scored more points than the much better known, Monte Carlo winning, factory 911S driven by the two Englishmen Vic Elford and David Stone. The 911, of course, went on to a stellar rally career, but the 912 played a part in Porsche rally history that should not be forgotten.
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    Can it be?...last pic in your post#963...

    Curt...isn't that Bjoern Waldegard walking away in the light colored driving suit, in front of the Orange 908(?)...with the Orange helmet resting on the fender, sporting the Swedish "flag-sticker"?...It's not Reine Wisell or Ronnie Pettersson...and not Joakim von Bonnier, either...any info when and where this race event was happening?...not important, just curious since I wasn't aware that BW drove in those kind of cars....not that he wouldn't be capable of doing it , of course..../ Lars...
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    Good eye, Lars! Waldegard drove the Targa Florio with Richard Attwood in 1970, finishing 5th. They drove one of the Gulf 908/3's (#36). I think the photo is actually where Porsche was testing the '909' (the red car) which eventually became the 908/3. Waldegard was one of the test drivers.

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    Hmmm... Curt, I don't think that red car is a Porsche. I'm not exactly sure what it is, but the wheels and bodywork look more Ferrari or Ford??

    My 9 year old daughter was looking over my shoulder when I opened this thread, and she is now walking around the kitchen saying - "Lars Wikblad, Lars Wikblad, Lars Wikblad" .... she loves your name Lars.

    Leave it to the Swede to spot the helmet, I have no recollection of Waldegard driving the 908/3, but I'm glad you spotted that ... very cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HughH
    Curt
    it also looks as if he is losing a bit of oil in the last pic
    I wouldn't like to be cleaning out the engine bay afterwards
    Hugh, I just noticed yr post about the oil loss on the 911R side tank. Both Ian Henderson and I experience this problem on our 911R cars and it seems that it was also a problem on the factory cars. we think its to do with a low pressure area created at this point which sucks oil form the tank, no matter how hard you try to seal the cap off.

    I know both Spencer and Jason will be pleased to see this pic as they have both torn out hair trying to keep Ian happy and oil inside the tank.
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    I'm referring to the car in the foreground, Jim.

    Harry, this might be Zasada's 912. It's from 67 anyway
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    Gotcha, I thought the car in the foreground was orange, but it's hard to tell..
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    curt, it is possible...

    the 912 registry site has this posted on the page about zasada



    however.. it is followed up with...

    Sobieslaw Zasada's racing accomplishments include European Rally Champion of the GP touring cars in 1966, in 1967 with his 912, and victory driving his Porsche 911 in the 2055-mile stage race across Argentina. He first raced motorcycles, and in 1951 he entered four-wheel racing. After solid racing performances, he received support from the Polish automobile club in Warsaw. At the time of his successes racing his 912, he was 37 years old and owned a four-person auto repair shop in Krakow.
    so the car in the agentina poster must be a 911 then, correct? The car in that poster has the same markings and 405 on the hood.. so im guessing the car in that pic is his 911 he won agentina with. am i wrong to think that, or would you assume the same? what do you think?
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    Curt, Jim and Harry...very cool...

    ...just as we are talking about Zasada's car in 1967...our USPS Mail-Man walks in with my "new-used" Starkey 911R,RS,RSR-Book...I flip a couple of pages and ..a'la..there it is..the same registration # 25-15-KR..but it's running #65 (instead of #405) in Stuttgart-Lyon Rally in 1967,got third place and the book says it is a 911S.(not to be confused with the comment about Zasada's Polish Rally winning-69S wich bekame the first RS!??)

    btw...the pic with Bjoern W has a lot of energy...look at everybody's eyes and total focus pointing towards the front of that "Red"car...something must have happend...also the 911 in the foreground...with Recaro sportseats with head-rest plugs and "R"-type rollbar...

    Say Hi to your daughter, Jim...LOL.../ Lars...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CurtEgerer
    I'm referring to the car in the foreground, Jim.

    Harry, this might be Zasada's 912. It's from 67 anyway
    The top of the red car has "Polonia" written on it. Per Wikipedia, Polonia is Latin for Poland. It must be Zasada's car. Back when I was vintage racing a 912, I tried to contact Sobieslav Zasada. I was a PCA newsletter editor at the time and I thought some back in the day 912 racing stuff would make a cool story. I got all the way to a Polish newspaper reporter who guaranteed me Zasada had received my inquiry, but apparently he's a big deal in Poland and can't be bothered.
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