Kremer 2.8 RSR

[Jack]

Which one is this?

Hello,

This one is 0760. It belonged to my mechanic about 10-12 years ago. He told me he sold it for... 300'000$!

Here is the Pbase reference

http://www.pbase.com/slidevalve911rs...760_recent_pix

[alarson11]

There are two Pbase sites. slidevalve911RSR link is in previous post.

Here is the other Pbase link, where there a comprehensive list of all the 1973 2.8 RSRs.

http://www.pbase.com/archive_racing_...r_factory_cars

[alarson11]

I think your mechanic may wish he had kept 0760 a little longer. There are two 1973 2.8 RSRs for sale that I know of. Links are below. Both are north of 3+ million Euros.

911360 0705
http://williamianson.com/car/porsche-2-8-rsr-for-sale/

911360 0885

http://www.maxted-page.com/cars/c354/details

[fourteenten]

Jack wrote 11yrs ago 911 360 0610 (6930103 1034513) Schultz/Kremer GP White. Gearbox N° 830626. Built 3/73. 15/4/73 .1000 Km Dijon : 10th OA, Fitzpatrick/Keller. 4/73 Nurburgring: N° 110, DNF/1 race. 1st /2 race . . Fitzpatrick. Montlhery: Schickentanz 1st /2 race . Imola: Schickentanz 2nd. Nivelles: Schickentanz 1st /2 races. Estoril: Keller/Schickentanz 1st and 2nd. (3 litre ). Thruxton: Shickentanz 3rd, Keller 4th. Hockenheim: Schickentanz 2nd /race 1 and 4th /race 2 (2nd OA). Monza 6-hours: Schickentanz/Keller 1st, Kremer/Neuhaus 2nd. Clemens . sold to Carlos Bolanos. Sold to a guy named Mike.

But this seems the race history of 885, correct?

Cees

[alarson11]

Here is the latest history of 911360 0610 from John Starkey:

1973 Porsche Carrera 2.8 RSR
Chassis number: 911 360 0610 (M491)
Production number: 103 4513
Engine number: 693 0103.
Gearbox number: 830 626.
Built: 3/73
Colour: Grand Prix White with black lettering.
First delivered to: Erwin Kremer

1973
01/04: Nurburgring 300km: 2-heat race EC-GT: #110. Retired in 1st heat, Engine. Rebuilt in Paddock between races. 1st in 2nd heat. (J. Fitzpatrick).
15/04: Dijon 1000Km: WCM: Fitzpatrick/Keller, #27; 10th.
25/04: Monza 1000Km WCM: Fitzpatrick/Keller, #85; 12th.
06/05: Spa 1000Km WCM: Fitzpatrick/Keller, #47; DNF.
13/05: Montlhery GP, Paris EC-GT: Keller, #1;DNF. (engine).
27/05: Nurburgring 1000Km WCM. Neuhaus/Keller/Schickentanz, #55;11th O.A. 1st in GT class.
9-10/6: Le Mans 24-Hours : Keller/Schickentanz/Kremer, #45; 8thOA/2nd in GT/1st in Idex of Efficiency class..
24/06: Nivelles EC-GT: Keller; DNF. (gear lever).
08/07: Estoril EC-GT: Keller, #45; 1st.
15/07: Diepholz DRM: Stommelen, #111; 1st.
05/08: Thruxton EC-GT: Keller; 4th.
26/08: Hockenheim: Keller, #56; DNF.
02/09: 6 Hours of Monza EC-GT: Kremer/Neuhaus;2nd.
07/10: Sauerland-Bergpreis ECM: Keller, #216; 2nd.

1974: Uprated to 1974 spec; “Samson” sponsored.
07/4: Monza EC-GT: Schickentanz, #44; 1st.
21/4: Zeltweg EC-GT : Schickentanz; 3rd.
25/4: Monza 1000Km: Kauhsen/Schickentanz, #96; 14thOA, 5th in GT class.
28/4: Eifelrennen Nurburgring: Schickentanz, #12; 5th
05/5: Spa 1000Km: Kauhsen/Schickentanz, #40; 5thOA, 2nd in GT class.
19/5: Nurburgring 1000Km: Kauhsen/Schickentanz, #42; 21stOA, 6th in GT class.
02/6:Imola 1,000 Kms: Schickentanz/Deutsch, #153; DNF. entered by Samson/Erwin Kremer.
15-16/6: Le Mans 24-Hours: Keller/Heyer, #68; DNF.
30/6: Austrian 1,000 Km's WCM: Barth/Pesch/Schickentanz; 12th OA/4th GT.
21/7: Diepholz DRM: Schickentanz; DNF.
04/8: G.P. von Europa, Hockenheim DRM: Schickentanz; DNF, (acc).
15/8: Paul Ricard 1000Km. WCM: Fitzpatrick/Bertrams, #47; 14thOA, 6th in GT class.
18/8: Enna EC-GT: Schickentanz; 3rd O.A.
01/9: 6 hours of Monza EC-GT: Schickentanz/Schurti; 5th.
15/9: Norisring 200 Miles: Fitzpatrick; 5th.
29/09: Brands Hatch 1000 Kms WCM; J. Fitzpatrick/C. Schickentanz/
T. Hezemans; 11th O.A. 1st Group 4.

Sold to J-C. Bolanos, Mexico.

20/10 Mexico City IMSA: J-C Bolanos/Cardona, #9; 37th.

1975
1-2/02: Daytona 24-Hours: J-C Bolanos/Jourdain/Heyer, #9; 39th NR.
21/03: Sebring 12-Hours: J-C Bolanos/Jourdain/Bolanos, #91; 4th.
20/04: Road Atlanta: J-C Bolanos; Heat 1; 9th. Heat 2; 27th NR.
04/05: Laguna Seca: J-C. Bolanos; Heat 1; 21st. Heat 2; 30th NR.
10/05: Riverside 6-Hours: J-C Bolanos/Jourdain; 9th.

1976: David Glenn prepared the RSR, Hans Mandt looked after the engine.
31/1-1/2: Daytona 24 Hours: J.C. Bolanos/Sprowls/G. Bolanos, #97; 31st NR/14th GTO.
20/03: Sebring 12-Hours: J.C. Bolanos/Sprowls/Lopez; 11th/10th GTO.
11/04: Road Atlanta: J. C. Bolanos: 9th/9th GTO.

Sold to Tony Garcia. Raced in Mexico and South America.

1979 “Montura Farms” sponsored.
3-4/02: Daytona 24-Hours: Garcia/Montalvo/Vadia; 8th/2nd.
17/03: Sebring 12-Hours: Garcia/Montalvo/Vadia, #54; 8th/3rd.
08/04: Road Atlanta: Garcia; 17th/8th.
22/04: Riverside 6-Hours: Garcia/Herman, #54; 8th/3rd.
29/04: Laguna Seca: Garcia, #54; 13th/7th.
13/05: Hallett; Garcia, #54; 12th/5th.
28/05: Lime Rock: Garcia, #54; 13th/5th.
17/06: Brainerd: Garcia, #54; 15th/5th.
04/07: Daytona: Garcia, #54; DNF.
15/07: Mid-Ohio: Garcia/De Narvaez,#54; 11th/3rd.
29/07: Sears Point: Garcia, #54; 17th/6th.
05/08: Portland: Garcia, #54; 14th/4th.
02/09: Road America: Herman/Garcia, #54;: 7th/2nd.
23/09: Road Atlanta: Garcia, #54;18th/6th.
25/11: Daytona: Terry Herman, #54; 67th NR.

1980
2-3/02: Daytona 24-Hours: Garcia/Vadia/Herman; 6th/1st.
22/03: Sebring 12-Hours: Herman/Naon/ Garcia, #54;; DNF.
13/04: Road Atlanta: Garcia, #54; 13th/4th.
27/04: Riverside 6-Hours: Herman/ Garcia, #54;: 8th/1st.
04/05: Laguna Seca: Garcia, #54; 8th/1st.
26/05: Lime Rock: Garcia, #54; 13th/9th.
04/07: Daytona: Garcia, #54; 18th /7th.
24/07: Golden State: Naon/ Garcia, #54;: 14th/7th.
03/08: Portland: Garcia, #54; 11th/3rd.
17/8: Mosport 1000Km: T. Herman/A. Naon, #54; 26thNR.
31/08: Road America: Herman/ Garcia, #54;: 10th/3rd.
21/09: Road Atlanta: Garcia, #54; (1): DNF (2): DNF.
30/11: Daytona: Garcia, #54; 34th/11th.

1981
31-1/1/2: Daytona 24-Hours: Naon/Serez/Garcia, #54; DNF.
21/03: Sebring 12-Hours: Naon/Cruz/Garcia, #54; 13th/6th.

1981: Sold to Tico Almeida.
1984: Sold to Andres “Chiriboga” Martinez, Guayaquil, Ecuador.
1989/90: J.R. Borsos and Conrad Casado went to Ecuador to purchase the RSR from Martinez.
Sold to Tom McIntyre.
Jim Torres started the restoration.
2003: Sold to Scott St. Peter of Career 6 Enterprises, who finished the restoration.
2010: Sold to Steve Schmidt of California.

[alarson11]

0610 and 0885 were sister Kremer "Samson" cars in 1974 so that year's racing history has been confused historically, as the drivers drove both cars during the season.

[70tangerine]

43 rear fenders appear a bit different?..love them though

[Fubawu]

Not totally relevant to Kremer 2.8 but I was wondering how many "RSR" cars raced in period were built off other chassis's? i.e S vins etc and raced by privateers??