The real 73 RSR TF Winner - Porsche Factory Scam??

[letsrollbabe]

Hugh,

A very good summary of the history of 020. We have come a long way in this thread in revealing some factory history that was not previously well known of how the 911 became a true competitive circuit racer in the early 70s. We may have even influenced the factory to restore 020 to its Targa configuration...who knows. I agree with you and have always felt that the history of 020 was significant enough that it should be represented in one of its historic forms. Rewriting history has never been a good thing, and the internet has helped to reinforce that point. We should collectively feel good about what this thread has done for the history of the 911 in competition.

[Mike_Moore]

Great to see 020 go back to it's proper guise as the number 9 Targa Florio car. To me though having gone to all that trouble
it's a shame they didn't recreate it's unique riveted on rear arches from the race, or the taped on prototype Mary Stuart tail
additions it ran.

[Mike_Moore]

Sometimes though maybe you can go to far in trying to recreate the fine detail, here's our recreation of the missing 002 Targa Florio car.....
It's on display this weekend at the UK's NEC Classic Car Show in Birmingham.


Picture courtesy Classic Porsche magazine

[patrick911]

How cool is that.

I know that for 99% of the visitors this didn't make a differences, but just like most of the guys here, i found it silly as the #9 car was (as mentioned before) an important car in its own right. Glad that it finally gets the credit it deserves and that people in the know (the 1%) know what's being displayed is correct.

[juankimalo]

Amazing thread!!

I contacted some guys here to try to obtain a bit more information.

I was writing a modest spanish book based upon a 911 2.8 RSR Tribute that a friend of mine built in Germany.
I was writing about the RS production and as you know there a lot of missunderstanding over this period.


In Armando Serrano´s web you can see a 1973 2.8 RSR registry:

http://www.pbase.com/archive_racing_...r_factory_cars

If you look at the registry, you could see the factory car R1 (#0019) with the same colors as you said here when talking about #0002

But there's no information attached to corroborate this.



I contacted to Claudio Roddaro, the actual RS1 (#0001) owner. He lives in Monte Carlo, and told me that he is the owner of another 9 units of the 2.8 RSR.

When talking to him, he assured me that the in the '73 Targa Florio, #108T car was the reserve with chassis #0001 (RS 1), NOT the #0002

Claudio Roddaro runs with Jürgen Barth Tour Auto Classic, and Le Mans Classic with RS1 (#0001)

[911T1971]

No. 107, never saw this pic before. (there exists one from another angle)

[928cs]

911 360 0002 (or 911 230 0841, the original chassis number of this car) seems to be in France now:
http://porscheclubrsdefrance.com/registres/911-360-002/

And it seems that it was, indeed, LEO- ZA 60.

Please note that the "production number", 102 3901.

[928cs]

There is an interesting article into a French magazine currently avaiblable.

It is mainly about 911 360 0019 (aka R1), but it contains some other information.

Here a summary of what is written.


- 911 360 0002
As 911 230 0841, it was used by Stahle at Zeltweg the 25th June 1972, as a very early RSR prototype. It was then "Project E42".

- 911 360 0019 is R1, and it was were raced during the Tour de Corse 1972. R1 was registered LEO-ZA 68. It was driven by Bjorn Waldegaard (copilot Hans Thorzelius).
The suspension was too soft for Waldegaard's taste and indeed, he crashed it.
It was then more or less repared and used a motor and gearbox test in Weissach. Then, it was dismounted and the chassis ended into Porsche usual "scrap dealer" (Freisinger?).
Later it was found in the USA and used for racing as a 3.0 RSR. John Starkey certainly knows a lot about this part of the history, as he was involved at some point.
Guy Chasseuil (a good period French pilot) has bought if in 2014 and has started the restoration of the car.
He has sold the unfished project to Ronald Hugues who has finished it.
Guy Chasseuil has tested the car recently. It is great in his 1972 TdC livery. It still has its 1972 oil tank, like a 1972 car.

- 911 360 0020 is R2. It was also raced during the Tour de Corse 1972, registered LEO-ZA 69. The driver was Gérard Larousse, the copilot was Christian Delferrier. They didn't finish the Rallye either, with a transmission failure. But the car was used during the Targa Florio 1973, and then during the 24 Hours of Le Mans 1973, as the Sonauto (Porsche French importer) and BP car. Guy Chasseuil was driving it during this event, with Peter Gregg.
Then, it was used for some testing (917 CanAm tires testing) before ending into the museum.
It has lost its 1972 oil tank just after the Targa Florio.

I hope that you have learned something new with this summary

[911T1971]

R7

https://nypost.com/2019/07/20/vintag...-authenticity/

>>>>>>>>>>>

[elfer]

Gijs van Lennep back in Sicilia with R6:

https://youtu.be/JjqMYAxuRAk