The real 73 RSR TF Winner - Porsche Factory Scam??

[elfer]

Race footage: https://youtu.be/-y8G9t0aJ60

[Chuck Miller]

GREAT footage elfer !!! .... Thanks

[Grzegorz Wozniak]

https://www.facebook.com/porsche.mus...68821140247453

[911MRP]

Thanks for posting. Nice to see that footage. Whatever the debate about car we know the driver was a winner of that race!

I was fortunate to have lunch with Gijs Van Lennep last year. Unplanned, we just happened to sit together at an event. Not only discussed the RSR but later the conversation turned to his single seater races for Frank Williams. Prodigious memory that is evident in the film was also clear from our chat — when he heard I had run the formal technical after-action debriefs for the F1 team for a couple of seasons he recounted the trackside discussions he’d had with Frank regarding: wing angles, tyre choices and engine rev limits particularly for the Zandvoort race, so that would’ve been roughly about time of his Porsche RSR drives. Great recall of detail and very animated about things from F1 races that happened about five decades before our lunchtime chat.

“He had two F1 seasons with Williams.

He returned to Formula One in July at 1973 Dutch Grand Prix at Zandvoort, driving Frank Williams' Iso-Marlboro IR. He qualified 20th and finished 6th, scoring one point. Later in the year, he finished 9th at Austrian Grand Prix at Österreichring and retired at Italian Grand Prix at Monza. In 1974, Van Lennep competed for Williams at Belgian Grand Prix at Nivelles, finishing 14th. His last attempt with Williams, at 1974 Dutch Grand Prix, wasn't successful and he failed to qualify”.

Steve

[Tour de Corse]

There is an interesting article into a French magazine currently avaiblable.

It is mainly about 911 360 0019 (aka R1), but it contains some other information.

Here a summary of what is written.


- 911 360 0002
As 911 230 0841, it was used by Stahle at Zeltweg the 25th June 1972, as a very early RSR prototype. It was then "Project E42".

Can someone please explain 'Project E42' ??

[911MRP]

If memory serves me it is probably referring to the race in Austria where Porsche fielded a prototype of what was to become the model 73 RS(R). Entered through the Austrian company. Think they did so under that entrant name to not attract too much attention but the eagle eyed Jenks saw through it and wrote about it in Motor Pport that month . Have the original article in my Motor Sport bound copy. Seem to recall the car had abs brakes. It was that article that set my friend the late Lord Lyell off to AFN to buy an RS but they were only launched October. He did however get one the fifty RHD RS quota. I don’t know what chassis that was entered or if that is the Porsche project number fit the work developing the car that was entered in that race however.

Edit found it: “The Austrian 1000 Kilometres. Osterreichring, Zeltweg, June 25th. …… Another interesting entry was a special 911 Porsche, entered by Paul Strahle, but being in reality a factory car from Zuffenhausen. Outwardly it was changed from the homologated 911 Porsches by the addition of a spoiler built on to the engine hatch at the rear, and the use of wider wheel rims. Inwardly it was materially changed by the use of larger cylinder bores giving a capacity of 2.7-litres the use of Can-Am 917 type brake calipers and discs, and the use of an anti-lock braking system similar to that tried last year in this same race on a special works 917 Porsche entered under the Martini banner. All these modifications put the car into the Prototype category and it was driven by Steckkonig and rally-man Waldegaard….” Source the incomparable DSJ on one of the bibles that I grew up reading— not much got past his sharp eyes as their man in Europe.



Steve

[billh]

The latest issue of Sports Car Market has the resolution of R7

[911MRP]

The latest issue of Sports Car Market has the resolution of R7

What does it say?

[HughH]

Can someone please explain 'Project E42' ??

"project E42" is not quite the correct term
All factory owned cars were given identity numbers for the financial accounts of the company - ie asset numbers

I911 230 0841n those days the number began with a letter of the year number - ie E was the 1972 MY and F the 1973 MY etc
then they were numbered sequentially as they were taken into the factory financial accounts - so E42 (911 230 0841) was the 42nd E series car to be transferred onto the Porsche asset register as a company owned car

There were exceptions to this numbering series - the R series in 1973 for example like R1

[billh]

What does it say?

"The litigation recently settled, with Schachter coming away with his car vindicated"

"Jacob Shalit filed suit against Schachter, seeking to establish that his car was the real R7"

"Schachter retained noted Porsche expert Andy Prill..Prill engaged Norbert Singer...the car (Schachter's) was taken to Porsche Classic in Germany for inspection"

Terms of the settlement...
-Shalit is free to sell his car but must identify its as a replica..
-The chassis# stamped into Shalit's car must be cut out and surrendered to Schachter
-Shalit's R7 chassis plate must also be surrendered to Schachter