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    What paint to use???Need your HELP!

    I am in the process of stripping the car and my paint guy is asking the right questions that I can't answer and need your help.

    Single stage? Base coat clear coat? Try to find Glasserute(sic) with Nitrogen base? I am trying to achieve the original paint look. The car is Tangerine if that matters.

    Could I have your comments please?

    Thanks!
    rich-911

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    I've bought PPG basecoat / clearcoat urethane in the original color for my '70S, with bare metal epoxy primer and urethane surfacer. The total price was about $850 for it all. Not cheap.
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    Depending on what you want to achieve with your car will depend on the single v. two stage paint. If you are going for a concourse car, then maybe a single stage would be best..otherwise the two stage is more durable and if there is ever a need for a touch-up, a two stage can be done MUCH easier and with better results. So, for the 99% of us, a two stage seems to be the better choice.
    It is not the original paint, so just make it look as nice a you can. Also, I have heard that PPG is the best product out there now...but I am not a paint guy...use what your painter is comfortable with or find one who uses what you want.

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    Rich:

    Lots of opinions here, so I will give you mine. I went through this whole thing when I had my car restored several years ago. I wanted to use Glasurit, since it was "porsche" paint. But my shop hadn't used it before. It was heavily recommended that your shop use a paint that he is familiar with. There are too many things that can happen while painting that are easily fixed if you are familiar with the paint.

    There are a lot of good paints out there. My guy used DuPont ChromaOne. I am very pleased with the finish. Since it is only an occasional use car, and it staying in the garage when not being driven, I am not worried about the elements. A paint rep I know suggested German paints, because they have more "solids" in them. I don't know.

    The question of single stage versus two stage was clear (excuse the pun) to me. I wanted to make my car original. So, I chose a single stage paint. This has good and bad points. If there is an issue, it can be easily blended in, without repainting the whole quarter panel, which you can't do with a two stage paint. Or so I have been told.

    Also, I think that you get more of a labor of love polishing and waxing a single stage car than you do with a two stage paint. In two stage, the clearcoat gives you that total shine. In single stage, it is your hard work that does it. But I enjoy that - my car isn't that big, so waxing and polishing is a "fun" experience.

    But it is your call. I don't know that the color of your car (one of my favorites, by the way) is relevant to the type of paint you are using. That wouldn't be the same answer if it were metalflake.

    Here's a pic of my hood. Like the shine?

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    Larry,

    You need a bit more wax on there...it does not quite reflect like it should

    Love that photo!
    Michael
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    The flat colors were single stage, but weren't the early metallics 2 stage?
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    Yes,

    The early metallics were two stage...

    All early colors were 'worked' (color sanded) after there were shot, single stage and two stage. You can not 'work' a metallic color (color sanding would sand off, flatten, and kill the aluminum particles that stand up and make it metallic) there for they would work the second stage clear coat to make a smooth and consistent finish like they did to the single stage solid colors.
    BTW - This applies to most all types of paint jobs and materials, both old and new.

    The exception to this was when the US, and a couple of other countries, shot with 'straight' enamel (not acrylic enamel) both solid and metallic colors a long time ago. In that process the paint would not be 'worked' at all... how it came out of the gun and cured is what you got... sometimes with amazing results ... just another lost art form.

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    I have just gone through this decision process for a 72S that I am restoring to Metallic Green. I had assumed that these early metallics were 2 shot, but while trying to replicate the colour my paint shop's supplier (Leckler) stated that they were single shot metallics back in the early 70s. I have in fact gone for a 2 pack water based based and clear coat, not original, but more environmentaly safe and a better finish too. I do all my non-metallic colours the same way.
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    I have just got a Silver 73T in for some repair work today and what do I find? A sticker declaring the paint is 2 coat! Chuck was right all along.

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    Rick,
    My '67S was recently repainted with PPG, 2 stage. It turned out very nice. The single vs. two stage originality issue is something only you can decide what's important to you. See attached pics.
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