1973 Carrera RS Cars for Sale

[72targa]

Bonhams auctioneer staff member commented I was being a purist when I asked to open the lid to see the vin and looked at its papers in detail.

Good of you to check. Reminds me of the line in the Wizard of Oz..."Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain"...

[911MRP]

This forum helped.

One of the guys I regard as old RS cognoscenti and one time owner of very low mile m471 describes some buyer's approach as. "If it looks like an RS it must be an RS"

I hope the new owner has done the necessary due diligence and is happy with the purchase.

[Rick Cabell]

911 MRP, you should have brought your 8mm socket and removed the knee pad and checked the production number. Then the auction house would really think you are a purist.

[Yellow491]

Nothing wrong with being a purist,most auction guys dont know there ass to elbow.But the stamped front number is only a part of the whole picture,there may well be a good reason for the differance in stamping,ie accident damage /factory replacement shell or front end etc etc.Forgery it may not be of the whole car/id.
I saw two complete rhd front end shell nos part numbers ,still attached for a 73 car,no build or chassis numbers in,so does that mean if grafted in its not the original title/id of the said damaged car.Of course the differance would be if its recorded or not,or the intent behind its replacement!Just playing devils ab.

I remember taking 2 long days going through a 906 before i purchased it,it had completely the wrong number on the chassis plate,but still a 906 with great history.

[Yellow491]

Yes thats what i am saying.
Hopefully not to be used as a period correct example,i find auction houses scary places

[RennTyp]

If any potential purchaser had taken the time to ring a couple of the more established Porsche preparers in the UK they'd have quickly got a realistic view on this car. It has been around. I'm amazed some people spend this sort of money without bothering to do due diligence. Even Googling the chassis number would have thrown up this thread and made you start asking questions.

It's also my experience that auction companies don't want to know about provenance issues. They stick their fingers in their ears and rely on the "sold as seen" cop-out in the small print. They don't get away with this in the art world. Time it changed with cars.

[911MRP]

It's also my experience that auction companies don't want to know about provenance issues. They stick their fingers in their ears and rely on the "sold as seen" cop-out in the small print. They don't get away with this in the art world. Time it changed with cars.

I'm not familiar with the workings of the art world but what is done differently in auction houses for say a $1m piece or art in regard to the concerns discussed here?

[RennTyp]

The main difference is that the auction house stands behind the description in the catalogue. If you buy a Picasso and it turns out to be a fake they give you your money back.

[911MRP]

Wonder if the auction T&C small print is different art vs things you use like cars....or just reputational thing in art world to stand behind it.

[sithot]

The main difference is that the auction house stands behind the description in the catalogue. If you buy a Picasso and it turns out to be a fake they give you your money back.

Well said.

"It's not our fault we sold you a fake".

† ALWAYS READ THE FINE PRINT