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  1. #691

    FS: @Gooding&Co - 2015 Pebble Beach - 73 911 Carrera 2.7 RS Lightweight

    These Carrera RS lightweights multiple like rabbits come Pebble Beach auction time. Let the prices stay strong . . .
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    1973 Porsche 911 Carrera 2.7 RS Lightweight
    VIN: 9113601034
    Engine: 6630087
    Trans: -
    Color: -
    Mileage: -
    Auction Estimate: US$900,000 - $1,100,000
    Sold for: US$935,000 *Please note this vehicle is sold on a Bill of Sale.

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    Auction Description:

    PROVENANCE
    Luigi Verga, Torino, Italy (acquired new in April 1973)
    Claudio Tabacco, Genoa, Italy (acquired in 1975)
    Giorgio Prestini, Brescia, Italy (acquired in 1978)
    Romano Danesi, Italy (acquired in 1981)
    Aurelio Gotto, Brescia, Italy (acquired in 1983)
    Claudio Aupt, Italy (acquired in 1987)
    Corrado Cupellini, Bergamo, Italy (acquired in 1995)
    Claudio Roddaro, Monaco, Monte Carlo (acquired from the above in 2004)
    Current Owner (acquired from the above)

    RACE HISTORY
    Cronoscalata di Montevergine, November 1975, Tabacco, No. 131

    EXHIBITED
    Rallye de Paris, 2002

    LITERATURE
    Dr. Georg Konradsheim and Dr. Thomas Gruber, Carrera RS, p. 225

    The Carrera 2.7 RS of 1973 was conceived as a pure homologation special, as Porsche needed to build 500 road-going examples to qualify its new RSR for Group 4 GT racing. The RS was a substantially modified variant of the already potent 2.4-liter 911 S. By increasing displacement, introducing various weight-saving measures, stiffening the suspension, and fitting aerodynamic aids, Porsche created an unrivaled sports car. In total, only 1,580 examples of the 2.7 RS were built, of which just 200 were finished in race-oriented M 471 Sport or Lightweight specifications.

    Designed primarily as a racing car that still retained its everyday utility, these rare RS Lightweights were initially constructed using a thin-gauge body shell with Glaverbel glass, fiberglass bumpers, and an aluminum-framed fiberglass engine lid molded into the famous ducktail spoiler. In an effort to save weight wherever possible, many of the 911’s standard features were discarded entirely or simply replaced with lighter, simpler items.

    Whereas the M 472 Touring models were often fully trimmed and highly optioned, the M 471 Lightweights featured a business-like cockpit, spartanly furnished with cloth-covered Recaro bucket seats, simplified door panels, and thin felt carpeting. In the most extreme instances, these cars were even delivered without a glove box door, clock, or sun visors. A definitive dual-purpose sports car, striking an ideal balance between the thoroughbred 2.8 RSR and the well-appointed M 472 Touring models, Carrera 2.7 RS Lightweights were generally sold to gentlemen drivers who used them to great effect in circuit racing, rallies, and hill climbs.

    This particular M 471 Lightweight, chassis 9113601034, was built in spring 1973 and, as recorded in factory records, originally finished in Viper Green (code 3838) with a standard black interior. According to Dr. Georg Konradsheim and Dr. Thomas Gruber’s definitive book Carrera RS, only 79 examples of the Carrera RS were delivered new in Viper Green, one of the most appealing Porsche colors offered in 1973.

    Delivered new to Luigi Verga in Torino, Italy, the Carrera RS remained in the hands of its original owner until 1975, when it was sold to Claudio Tabacco of Genoa. During his ownership, Tabacco entered the Porsche in several local hill climbs and then sold the car to Giorgio Prestini, owner of Brescia-based wheel manufacturer Eta Beta S.p.A. in 1978. An amateur rally driver, Prestini campaigned the RS in Italian events through 1980 or 1981, when he acquired a Group 4 Lancia Stratos. Automobile Club d’Italia registration records document the Porsche’s chain of ownership throughout the 1980s, and, as noted on an FIA Historic Vehicle Identity Form included in the car’s file, the RS was initially restored in 1990, while owned by Claudio Aupt.

    In 1995, well-known Italian collector Corrado Cupellini purchased the RS and drove it in several European rallies, including the 2002 Rallye de Paris. In 2004, Cupellini sold the Carrera to Claudio Roddaro of Monte Carlo, an avid Porsche enthusiast who has owned several significant competition cars, including a 550 A Spyder, 2.8 RSR, and 3.0 RSR. It is believed the RS was completely restored in Italy during Mr. Roddaro’s ownership, returning the car to its original Viper Green livery.

    In more recent years, this beautifully prepared RS Lightweight has been included in an important private collection, where it has benefitted from minimal road use. As a result, the car continues to present very well in all respects and appears to be a superb example of this iconic 911 model. Though the original engine is no longer with the car, the engine currently fitted is a correct 911/83 unit, numbered 6630087. According to the book Carrera RS, this engine number corresponds to chassis 911360071, a first-series M 471 Lightweight built in November 1972 and retained by Porsche as a press car.

    For the collector in search of a fine example of the exceptionally rare M 471 Lightweight, this Viper Green RS, with its fascinating Italian provenance and superb presentation, is a particularly appealing candidate.
    Last edited by DOUGS73E; 08-18-2015 at 02:07 PM. Reason: Added Sold Price.
    Doug Dill

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  2. #692

    FS: @Bonhams - 1973 911 Carrera RS 2.7L

    A problematic RS appears again . . .
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    Bonhams 2015 Quail Lodge Auction, 14 Aug 2015 11:00 PDT
    1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS 2.7L, Lot 36
    VIN: 9113601059 (yes? no? - you decide - actually the auction price decides)
    Engine: -
    Trans: -
    Color: Currently Gulf Blue (but with a rainbow of color history)
    Mileage: 58,894 km (indicated)
    Auction Estimate: US$250,000 - 300,000/€230,000 - 270,000
    Sold for: US$324,500 (including premium)

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    Undeniably one of the most desirable sports driving cars of its era, the Carrera RS 2.7 has become a legend. Chassis number '1059' left the factory in April 1973 and was delivered to Belgium on 7th May of that year. A 3rd-series RS, it was delivered in Touring ('M472') specification finished in light yellow (color '6262'). '1059' spent its first ten years in Belgium in the hands of a Belgian collector specializing in Porsche cars. In 1984, the Carrera was bought by Michel Aouate, who was a member of the Porsche Club in France, and used the car for Club events. At that time '1059' was equipped with some mechanical parts and other elements from the later 2.8-liter Carrera RSR competition version.

    From 1986 to 1988 the Porsche was owned by Stephane Ratel, who was the promoter of the FIA GT Championship. In 1988, it was sold to Pascal Motte, a collector in the north of France. Mr Motte commissioned a major restoration that included a complete engine rebuild and replacement of the crankcases. These works were carried out in 1988 by Louis Meznarie, a Porsche dealer who specialized in the preparation of Porsches for racing during the 1970s and '80s. The invoice for the repairs was issued for the original engine (number '6631039') but according to Louis Meznarie's practice; this number was not re-stamped on the new crankcase, which explains why today the engine has no number. In 1989 the car was repainted in Grand Prix White with green graphics, and in 1994 was sold together with the rest of Pascal Motte's collection. Between 1994 and 2001, '1059' was the property of Thierry Lacaze, a Porsche Cup competitor between 1993 and 1998, who used the Carrera for historic races such as the Tour Auto. Thierry Lacaze carried out extensive maintenance and had the car repainted in its original light yellow livery with black graphics. All the 2.8 RSR parts were retained.

    In May 2001 the Carrera was bought by Laurent Timonier, who maintained it in good condition and had the gearbox fully overhauled. In July 2006 the car was involved in an accident, damaging the front left corner, and Mr. Timonier decided that, rather than merely repair it, he would undertake a complete restoration. The latter was carried out by Mr. Franco Fraccaro, a Geneva based specialist in historic Porsche road and competition cars. The restoration took two years and was completed by August 2008. Many components were changed, remade or fully restored. The car was repainted Gulf Blue (color '6060') and all the aforementioned 2.8 RSR parts were retained.

    The immediately preceding owner bought the Porsche in November 2010 to add to his collection, keeping the car until May 2013 when it was purchased at Bonhams' Spa Classic Sale (Lot 11) by a US-based collector. Since acquisition, extensive works have been carried out, during which signs were discovered suggesting that the car may have been re-tubbed, and the chassis number re-stamped.

    Since purchase, the Carrera has been maintained by Racing Industry Specialists in California, USA. RIS carried out adjustments to the bonnet and boot, and fitted new seat belts, fire extinguisher, tires, window rails, door handles and a high-torque starter motor. European Motorsports in California carried out extensive works on the engine in June 2013 for which there is a bill on file for $11,500 and another for a new ignition control unit costing $736.93.

    The car comes with FIVA papers and FIA technical passport, and is homologated in racing category 'C GTS 22H. Additionally, an extensive history file if offered with the Porsche, containing many receipts and photos of the cars restoration.

    The Porsche 911 Carrera RS was voted one of their favorite cars of the last 50 years by the readers of Sport Auto and '1059' was chosen to represent the marque, appearing in the magazine's 600th edition in January 2012.
    Last edited by DOUGS73E; 08-17-2015 at 01:15 PM.
    Doug Dill

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    PCA #1987109761
    Early 911S Registry #548

  3. #693
    Quote Originally Posted by Pirulero View Post
    I repeat:

    Drive a Touring

    then

    Drive a Lightweight M471



    Then let me know....you will discover that they are 2 different world!
    Remember: less is (much) more
    Fair point. Since I have only driven a touring I will defer to your opinion. If/when I have the pleasure of driving a lightweight then I will comment. Seats, bumpers, door handles didn't seem like much but I can't comment further.

    If it's that much better then wow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 911MRP View Post
    . . . (Lightweight is indeed an unofficial, imprecise and misleading term in this context) . . .
    LOVE to have one/several/any of our Esteemed Carrera owners step-up + weigh-in . . .
    http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...Vehicle-Weight

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    1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS Touring (472) Chassis Number: 911360 0541. Sold at Coys Blenheim Palace Auction UK for £427,400 /~US$ 667,000/~ €612,000. (Result published on Wed 15th July 2015 at 4:32pm)

    http://www.coys.co.uk/auction.php?it...7&auctionID=55

    Coys have a 15% Buyer Premium payable on the first £30,000/ €50,000 and 10% on any amount thereafter of the final Hammer Price. VAT, at the standard rate, presumably 20%, is payable on the Premium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 911MRP View Post
    . . . 1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS Touring (472) Chassis Number: 911360 0541 . . .
    VIN = 9113600541
    Eng# = ?
    Trans# = ?

    '. . . When #0541 was delivered from the factory the extras ordered were: limited slip differential; Recaro sport seats with Perlon-cord inserts; long range petrol tank; and 'space saver' spare wheel. The car's roof was executed by the works in thin metal; it wears its original GRP duck-tail rear spoiler, its original GRP front spoiler as well as its original headlining, all in excellent condition, as is the original dashboard. The only later additions are the inner door skins, which are also lightweight specification.

    The injection pump was overhauled by Bosch (inv. available); the engine also had a major overhaul with new main and connecting rod bearings and a complete set of new original Porsche pistons/cylinder by Mahle. Time serts were also installed to fasten cylinder head studs in the crankcase and the chain tensioners were updated to the modern type.

    Since this overhaul the car has run – faultlessly, as expected – for around 15,000 kilometres, and its total mileage is now just over 100,000 kilometres.

    Moreover, the original Fuchs rims – 7' to the front and 8' to the rear – were overhauled by manufacturer Fuchs of Ludwigsburg in 2014. At that time the wheel alignment was also done.

    This Porsche 911 Carrera RS of 1973 speaks for itself. Totally rust-free (having always been stored in a dehumidified garage), it comes with Swedish paperwork, history file, original brochures, a custom fitted car cover, some original tools and paperwork . . .
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    (Not mine)

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  7. #697
    Quote Originally Posted by 911MRP View Post
    1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS Touring (472) Chassis Number: 911360 0541. Sold at Coys Blenheim Palace Auction UK for £427,400 /~US$ 667,000/~ €612,000. (Result published on Wed 15th July 2015 at 4:32pm)

    http://www.coys.co.uk/auction.php?it...7&auctionID=55
    Also mentioned here:
    http://www.early911sregistry.org/for...l=1#post815984
    Doug Dill

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  8. #698
    LongRanger -

    A first series Touring will have the thin sheet metal, thin glass, and generally not much undercoating.

    The third series Lightweights were diverted from the production line and had full undercoating, production sheet metal, thick glass, and often some galvanized body parts.

    So, as time went on, the difference weight-wise between the two was reduced a bit. The third-series Tourings were the same bodies as the Lightweights. That left the difference pretty much the carpeting, no clock, no passenger visor, even the rear bumpers were steel, like the production cars, and of course, the VIN. One of 200 is a good thing!

    - Rob

  9. #699
    Robert 5995 is correct about the difference between first and third-series lightweights.

    Third series lightweights aren't really lightweights in substance. Essentially, they just carry over the lightweight appearance.
    Dick Moran

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert5995 View Post
    . . . A first series Touring will have the thin sheet metal, thin glass, and generally not much undercoating.

    The third series Lightweights were diverted from the production line and had full undercoating, production sheet metal, thick glass, and often some galvanized body parts.

    So, as time went on, the difference weight-wise between the two was reduced a bit . . .

    Yes-yes-yes --- so I've heard + so I've read . . .

    . . . thinner this + lighter that . . . + all in hushed/reverent tones, heads bowed

    Puh --- leeeeez



    I don't mean to f@rt in church, here, but --------------- where are the 'numbers'?

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