911E Cars for Sale

[Eminence Gris]

I read the eBay description, and I would not have expected the car to arrive not running, etc.

Too-clever sellers will avoid showing the unsatisfactory parts of the car. you'll note there is no photo of the driver's seat in the original ad.

What has the seller offered to do to make this right?

[NiceT]

Yale,
Sorry to see that your first post is one like this. This is going to be an expensive and hard lesson unfortunately. No way to win with a good conscience. Sell it for what ever you can get with FULL DISCLOSURE and take the loss. Know that there are more weasels than fellow enthusiasts out there and never buy a car sight unseen again. Recite the mantra "get a PPI, get a PPI" in your sleep. I learned my lesson with a Kharman Ghia at 17 and lost $500 in a week. In 1978, at 17 that is alot!
The fact that the seller is a regular here is more disturbing. Ebay won't do #%&* for you. Ebay is a good place to get extensive exposure for good items but ripe with fraud. It lets the seller do just this exact thing. I've said it before, what do you expect when the company's slogan is "buyer beware". They just hide it in a clever latin phrase. Cut your losses honestly, and patiently continue your search for a good car only buy dealing with sellers in person. PCA is a better starting place. Sorry the seller won't make it right but I also don't know how some folks sleep at night.
My .02 worth.....sorry

Daron

[Baron]

I could be mistaken, but I believe that this SAME seller has another dubious car listed for sale and at first, the replacement engine was NOT disclosed, but WAS discovered by knowledgeable members of this site.

Chuck

[yale]

I agree with Daron, but I would take one additional step. I would post your description of your scenario after every ad this guy places here.Let people know what kind of experience you have had.It is not the norm for this Board,but,short of a lawyer,it won`t leave you much recourse.You were too damn nice in your description of your experience.His ads are always filled with hyperbole and grand descriptions of his cars.Call a spade a spade! Chase him over to Pelican and post this under Discussions section too!

Thanks folks. I always gave Jack the benefit of the doubt. I thought ok the car doesn't run and I can see some rust right off the bat but maybe he is right when he tells me that is no big deal, but then we found more significant issues. So I posted my tale of woe over on the Pelican Board and they suggested I post here as well. To be frank I wasn't sure what to expect from the community. I didn't know if you guys were going to raise up in his defense and say that car sounds fine and the issues are normal for a $34,500 car. Jack obviously has quite a few cars and talks as if he is a respected member but on neither board has anyone said one nice thing about him.

I'll let you know what happens on the ebay side of things, who knows they might surprise us. Best, Yale

[Baron]

I agree with Baron, but I would take one additional step. I would post your description of your scenario after every ad this guy places here.Let people know what kind of experience you have had.It is not the norm for this Board,but,short of a lawyer,it won`t leave you much recourse.You were too damn nice in your description of your experience.His ads are always filled with hyperbole and grand descriptions of his cars.Call a spade a spade! Chase him over to Pelican and post this under Discussions section too!

Yale,

Good idea, but way too much work. I think a call to your local MS13 chapter is probably in order ... and then just be done with it

This guy is sounding more and more like he is a good friend of the infamous Dr. Mengele in Healdsburg California.

Chuck

[yale]

I read the eBay description, and I would not have expected the car to arrive not running, etc.

Too-clever sellers will avoid showing the unsatisfactory parts of the car. you'll note there is no photo of the driver's seat in the original ad.

What has the seller offered to do to make this right?

Hello Eminence,

I meant to answer this last night. At first he offered to take the car back if I would pay him a "10% restocking charge", but then would not do that.

Best,

Yale

[Baron]

Don't forget these alias'

The description you see here and my phone conversations with Jack (J.P.) Molinier also known as Myeurostuff@hotmail.com, Mycarrera2.7rs, lucerne629, Jack@73rs.com and jack@european-classics.com did not prepare me for the car I received. Yale

[Eminence Gris]

Somebody with this many "handles", aliases or names is T R O U B L E.

How about starting a "round file" list of known bad actors?

Tom

This guy came on Pelican a few years back and put up a weird post about buying 10-20 longhoods to provide for his kids' futures. He subsequently flipped 30 or more longhoods under a couple aliases. Mostly cosmetic minimalist makeovers, as I understand it. There are a handful of high volume flippers out there, and a couple of them 'push the envelope' in terms of mark-up.

BTW, for anyone interested, I can hook them up with a '72 E Targa for $20K that's a little better than the one described -- except for needing a repaint... when I broker a deal, I do it for a flat $500, and I probably broker 3 deals a year.

[mycarrera2.7rs]

[QUOTE=Eminence Gris]This guy came on Pelican a few years back and put up a weird post about buying 10-20 longhoods to provide for his kids' futures. He subsequently flipped 30 or more longhoods under a couple aliases. Mostly cosmetic minimalist makeovers, as I understand it. There are a handful of high volume flippers out there, and a couple of them 'push the envelope' in terms of mark-up.

QUOTE]
Tom,
well guess what that is what I have been doing, got a few short hood in there to, but Carreras, so what I do is refine my collection, or tweek it if you will, cars come and go in and out of my collection, a little like a portfolio of shares you keep some you sell some. If I should make a profit it goes into the resto of another car. Some of your info is correct, some not, but that's ok. I don't do minimalist make overs, I do mechanical work so I can drive them, and full repay/interior/mechanical if I am going to keep them.
FYI, Flippers don't push any enveloppes, the market is the market, and cars fetch what they bring.
here is my handle the same on Pelican as here.

[Eminence Gris]

How about starting a "round file" list of known bad actors?

My personal (un) favorite is Unclezak up in Eugene (Bruce Mosieur), He has had five aliases on eBay, but is currently off the radar -- probably for repeatedly selling stolen cars. The one I bought from him cost me a lot to make right -- I had to buy the title from the owner. Unclezak told me he felt it was my fault for trusting him (seriously)!

Geoff Wattiker in Chapel Hill, NC has made a few enemies, as well. He is currently operating under a different name with the handle 're-porsche' on eBay.

Lots on both of these guys on Pelican and via Google searches.