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  1. #11
    The lightweights in the photos were the 1969 homologation 911S also known unofficially as the ST. The earliest cars were narrow bodies. These lightweight tubs were produced in 69 and used through ST production. They were the next evolution after the lightweight L and TR models.

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  2. #12
    Thanks Don, I found a few pics of the 69' Monte winner that Waldegaard drove. Im sure some have been shown in Curt's amazing collection.
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    Thought the images needed to be adjusted:
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    Matt,
    I believe you will have to be lucky to find pics of any real '69 l/w 911s that raced in the GT2000 class in that year.
    There was a thread touching on this topic about a year ago.
    On the surface '69 was a bit of a black hole for researchers such as ourselves as I believe there was no proper series as such of l/w 911Ss made specifically for sale to compete in the FIA GT 2000 classes.
    Reading between the lines,I can only guess that if a racer went to Porsche,cheque book in hand,they would build him a race 911S,or T or R to his specs for his intended race series.
    I would think that the Race department would have been up to their necks building 908s,917s and 908/3s to have time for more GT 911s.
    Boschen /Barth give no production race chassis numbers for '69 which leads me to think that similar to '68,random shells were just pulled from the production line and taken to the Race department for re working.
    I think we are probably talking less than 10 cars for that year,with most privateers such as the Kremers opting to modify and race their '68 models.
    Look for the vent windows on the 911s on the Sports/Racing site for '69.
    The pics Raj has posted of the l/w cars are generally accepted as 2.2/2.3 STs of '70 despite the door handles.Porsche have been known to re cycle cars/pics for publicity purposes before !
    The black/white pic is of a red French car and the white car(of three) - both may have been re cycled into general production after the pics were taken.
    As a matter of interest,the white l/w is from a brochure dated 9/69 and is a prelude to the l/w RS as the weight given is 930 kg.
    I wonder if any made it to the road in that format ?
    Can't provide any answers but it is sure interesting to speculate !

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  5. #15
    Whats not mentioned in this letter from Porsche about this 69S is the car also had a bare interior, skid plates, 100l tank, ivory color and a porsche decal on the back lid... Porsche has been no help with any modern day info.

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    Robert, thats a great letter!
    Im wondering if the rods were titanium, seeing as they didnt have the ones of the correct weight? I like the way the factory says...."the engine is tuned".
    Do you have any racing history of the car?
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  7. #17
    Hi Matt..
    Its raced at Spanish curcuits and went back to Germany in 71'.
    But more importantly,, the letter proves Porsche was building 911 competion cars regardless the lack of general info. The 68' Sports Purpose wish list was carried forward and applied to 69' as well.

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  8. #18
    Don't forget Trans Am in the US. The 911s raced as "sedans" from 1967-1969. Many of the cars were originally stock cars, but some were special ordered from the factory. Also, at least 1 911R raced in a Trans Am race. The ruling allowing them to race as sedans was changed in 1969 for the 1970 year, which turned the mantle of dominance back to Alfa (up until the 2.5 Challenge).

    If you can find pictures, you will see a lot of 911s running American Racing Wheels...

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    A few factory competition models from 1969:
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    #31 looks like the torsion bar access hole is LWB - are you saying they modified the 68's to LWB spec?

    That last foto is the 69 Acropolis rallye. Pauli Toivenen won it in a "911S". Maybe converted, by why would they go thru the trouble of that?

    I'll continue searching for circuit racers ....
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